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>You seem to assume that there’s even a politician on the ticket that’s worthy of the vote on this issue. Tennessee also recently enacted legislation OUTLAWING

>You seem to assume that there’s even a politician on the ticket that’s worthy of the vote on this issue. Tennessee also recently enacted legislation OUTLAWING RANKed-CHOICE VOTING [after Memphis attempted such voting], thus ensuring only two-party electorate; and for the foreseeable future. This state HATES its constituency, beyond anything more than their "fair" votes.

bigstrat2003 3y ago
> This state HATES its constituency, beyond anything more than their "fair" votes. Before you can say that, I think first you have to show that most of the voters in TN want ranked choice voting. In my experience many people do not want it, because they feel it is unfair and that it amounts to getting multiple votes. And before anyone argues at me about "that isn't what RCV means", you're preaching to the choir. I am 100% for using some form of RCV instead of FPTP voting. But if it turns out most of the people in TN favor FPTP, then their representatives are simply doing their job on behalf of the people. I don't know if that's the case, but it wouldn't surprise me based on past experience.
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rpmisms 3y ago
That's a fair bit of rhetoric, but we're pretty much a single-party state. New York is about as hard blue as we are hard red, and they despise their citizens. At least here I have more freedom and less taxes.
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  more freedom Unless you want to start a city-run ISP.
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    Yeah, mine is owned by the state instead, dirt cheap. I can do more things with fewer restrictions, I have more freedom. Anyway, I have to put together the gun I 3d printed, take my completely unregistered truck to church, then maybe go hunting without a license, then come home to my house where I pay $400 a year in property taxes. All legal.
    - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
      Are you telling me that here in Tennessee, I can drive my unregistered truck on public roads, as long as the destination is a church? You definitely do need a license to hunt in this state, even on your own private land. There are even defined seasons (except for invasives). $400/yr/tax is probably a singlewide, but I do agree that property taxes here are low (and thus our education pays 43rd in the country to teachers). I'm genuinely curious about the truck-to-church thingy, though — as I do truly have an unregistered pickup truck (I have insurance, just no title).
      - rpmisms 3y ago
        1. Farm tags exist, but only in some counties. Destinations can be church, groceries, or farm purposes. 2. False. On your own land (or land owned by family), you just need to follow season and report harvest. Check TWRA site. 3. 2k sqft and 5 acres. I'm in the mid-sticks, but yes, our property taxes are excellent.
        ProllyInfamous 3y ago
        1. I would say this interpretation is "quite a stretch" [e.g. FARM tags typically only for >6000lb class, but okay]; in attempting further research it does seem that any vehicle (with four or more wheels), even with specific no intention or minimal roadway use, still MUST be registered within Tennessee (e.g. TDR-sticker program) — of course presuming no farm plate availability (e.g. weight class, county). I am mainly asking because I have a Tacoma (that I've insured for almost two years now) which I cannot register because the probate executive is too disrespectful to fulfill his duties... and live in Tennesse... and really only drive to get groceries and between properties (as a beekeeper, still inelgibile for farm tag/plate). 2) See citation, but basically "you still have to get permission, yes." 3: Awesome, dude, it must be way undervalued =D Alabama is "just a stone's throw away" and the property taxes there make Tenn (and TEX!) seem like highway robbery. 4: Have a great day! 1: https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/revenue/title-and-registration/vehicle-registration/off-highway-vehicles.html https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/revenue/title-and-registration... 2: "Landowner License Exemption: Persons hunting without a license under a farmland owner exemption must complete and sign a statement attesting where the property is located and how this land qualifies for a landowner exemption before hunting"

bigstrat2003 3y ago

> This state HATES its constituency, beyond anything more than their "fair" votes. Before you can say that, I think first you have to show that most of the voters in TN want ranked choice voting. In my experience many people do not want it, because they feel it is unfair and that it amounts to getting multiple votes. And before anyone argues at me about "that isn't what RCV means", you're preaching to the choir. I am 100% for using some form of RCV instead of FPTP voting. But if it turns out most of the people in TN favor FPTP, then their representatives are simply doing their job on behalf of the people. I don't know if that's the case, but it wouldn't surprise me based on past experience.

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rpmisms 3y ago

That's a fair bit of rhetoric, but we're pretty much a single-party state. New York is about as hard blue as we are hard red, and they despise their citizens. At least here I have more freedom and less taxes.

BobaFloutist 3y ago
more freedom Unless you want to start a city-run ISP.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  Yeah, mine is owned by the state instead, dirt cheap. I can do more things with fewer restrictions, I have more freedom. Anyway, I have to put together the gun I 3d printed, take my completely unregistered truck to church, then maybe go hunting without a license, then come home to my house where I pay $400 a year in property taxes. All legal.
  - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
    Are you telling me that here in Tennessee, I can drive my unregistered truck on public roads, as long as the destination is a church? You definitely do need a license to hunt in this state, even on your own private land. There are even defined seasons (except for invasives). $400/yr/tax is probably a singlewide, but I do agree that property taxes here are low (and thus our education pays 43rd in the country to teachers). I'm genuinely curious about the truck-to-church thingy, though — as I do truly have an unregistered pickup truck (I have insurance, just no title).
    - rpmisms 3y ago
      1. Farm tags exist, but only in some counties. Destinations can be church, groceries, or farm purposes. 2. False. On your own land (or land owned by family), you just need to follow season and report harvest. Check TWRA site. 3. 2k sqft and 5 acres. I'm in the mid-sticks, but yes, our property taxes are excellent.
      - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
        1. I would say this interpretation is "quite a stretch" [e.g. FARM tags typically only for >6000lb class, but okay]; in attempting further research it does seem that any vehicle (with four or more wheels), even with specific no intention or minimal roadway use, still MUST be registered within Tennessee (e.g. TDR-sticker program) — of course presuming no farm plate availability (e.g. weight class, county). I am mainly asking because I have a Tacoma (that I've insured for almost two years now) which I cannot register because the probate executive is too disrespectful to fulfill his duties... and live in Tennesse... and really only drive to get groceries and between properties (as a beekeeper, still inelgibile for farm tag/plate). 2) See citation, but basically "you still have to get permission, yes." 3: Awesome, dude, it must be way undervalued =D Alabama is "just a stone's throw away" and the property taxes there make Tenn (and TEX!) seem like highway robbery. 4: Have a great day! 1: https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/revenue/title-and-registration/vehicle-registration/off-highway-vehicles.html https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/revenue/title-and-registration... 2: "Landowner License Exemption: Persons hunting without a license under a farmland owner exemption must complete and sign a statement attesting where the property is located and how this land qualifies for a landowner exemption before hunting"