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iOS 17.3 to Include Stolen Device Protection Feature
- allears 3y agoA non-paywall link would be appreciated.
- zshrc 3y agohttps://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/12/ios-17-3-stolen-device-protection-feature/ https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/12/ios-17-3-stolen-device-... For those who don't want to pay. Goes over the WSJ in depth lol.
- unstatusthequo 3y agoFor people that don’t want to pay or use MacRumors: https://archive.is/IFOmd https://archive.is/IFOmd
- wilg 3y agoWhy wouldn't you want to use MacRumors?
- Gigachad 3y agoThe time delay seems like a great feature. I’ve heard a few stories now where people were forced to factory reset the phone at gunpoint.
- ddol 3y agoI can’t imagine time delay will make a gunman happy.
- Gigachad 3y agoThis is exactly the same thing used in cash vaults in businesses. The idea is that the robbery doesn't even happen in the first place when criminals work out there is no way you can coerce people in to giving up the goods.
- jerlam 3y agoFrom the MacRumors article: > For especially sensitive actions, including changing the password of the Apple ID account associated with the iPhone, the feature adds a security delay on top of biometric authentication. [...] However, Apple said there will be no delay when the iPhone is in familiar locations, such as at home or work. It's fascinating how the device is using location as another security factor.
- hnburnsy 3y ago> From the MacRumors article: > > > For especially sensitive actions, including changing the password of the Apple ID account associated with the iPhone, the feature adds a security delay on top of biometric authentication. [...] However, Apple said there will be no delay when the iPhone is in familiar locations, such as at home or work. > > It's fascinating how the device is using location as another security factor. Another vector for law enforcement or state actors to request private information. We will see warrants for all users who have these coordinates near their "familiar location"
- toomuchtodo 3y agoWhy would they go to Apple when they can simply go to your mobile service provider? https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vqkv/how-fbi-gets-phone-data-att-tmobile-verizon https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vqkv/how-fbi-gets-phone-da... https://propertyofthepeople.org/document-detail/?doc-id=21088576 https://propertyofthepeople.org/document-detail/?doc-id=2108... > The presentation provides more recent figures on how long telecoms retain data for. AT&T holds onto data such as call records, cell site, and tower dumps for 7 years. T-Mobile holds similar information for 2 years, and Verizon holds it for 1 year. This might not apply if your opsec avoids mobile providers and you're running only wifi, but that seems like a rare edge case. This fight is fought in court and legislation unfortunately.
- olliej 3y agoHow would that warrant work? It would require apple being forced to send a software update that told every phone about every geofence and then have those phones report back if they intersected. _or_ they can just ask the carriers which cellphones are where, which they are already able to do despite it being fairly questionable to me.
- toomuchtodo 3y agohttps://archive.today/IFOmd https://archive.today/IFOmd
- tinus_hn 3y agoA delay for all these things after a password reset should have been there from the start and should not require an iOS upgrade as it should be server side.
- cmsj 3y agoNot all of the things that it covers involve a server, and the iOS upgrade (17.3) will work on all of the devices that currently have iOS17. You can argue the feature should have existed in earlier versions of iOS, but it didn't, so... yeah.
- tinus_hn 3y agoBut the things that do involve Apples servers could have been implemented years ago and shouldn’t be dependent on installing an iOS update. Why would you not deserve to be protected as much as possible if you use a Mac with iCloud and an Android phone?
- gnicholas 3y agoSo what happens if Face ID or Touch ID stops working for you, for some reason? I've never had it happen with Face ID, but it has happened with Touch ID (especially in winter months when skin on fingers gets dry). Does that mean you simply cannot change these settings or access these features? One could imagine a disfiguring accident (or even just recovery from a cosmetic operation) rendering Face ID inoperable.
- zubiaur 3y agoProbably fallback to the full apple account password. Currently, if Face ID is inoperative, it falls back to the PIN.
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- RockRobotRock 3y agobuy some lotion
- sam345 3y agoNo paywall:https://archive.is/IFOmd https://archive.is/IFOmd
- eviks 3y ago> No passcode fallback is available in the event that the user is unable to complete Face ID or Touch ID authentication. Why not allow another password?
- eviks 3y ago> thieves spying on iPhone passcodes This could also be made harder if you didn't have password repeated in plain text on your password field letter by letter
- RockRobotRock 3y agoThis isn't a thing on the lock screen, though?
- eviks 3y agoIt is, it's a universal flaw in the design of the password input field: it not only reveals password length, but also reveals all the letters
- RockRobotRock 3y agoI see what you mean. This doesn't apply to users with a numeric code though, since that uses a different UI element.
- eviks 3y agoIt does apply since the numeric keypad is also relatively easy to decode.