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70 years ago there was a job for someone to stand in an elevator and press a button for the rider. Today we have jobs for people to rearticulate box scores. I

by bko 3y ago

70 years ago there was a job for someone to stand in an elevator and press a button for the rider. Today we have jobs for people to rearticulate box scores. If a computer can do it adequately it should be done by a computer. I don't want to bring back the button pusher and I'm okay with ai authors. But they really shouldn't lie about it

genedan 3y ago
There are still elevators like that in the Fine Arts Building in Chicago. In addition to the elevators, it's a great place to be if you're a musician. There are studios, practice rooms, and musical instrument shops too.
- bobthecowboy 3y ago
  > If a computer can do it adequately it should be done by a computer Wasn't there recently some entirely AI "musician"? I'm guessing the person you're replying to doesn't see an ongoing need for musicians either.
- filoleg 3y ago
  The office building in Manhattan that I work at, the elevator is like that as well. I am fairly certain there are plenty of people on HN working in that same building who could corroborate this
vlovich123 3y ago
> But they really shouldn’t lie about it If you can’t tell then what’s the problem? If you can what’s the problem? I have bigger problems with everyday lies that already happen that are treated as “normal”. For example, advertising a price cut as if there’s a discount by raising the everyday price and discounting to the previous everyday price, using celebrities/influencers to promote products, paying for product reviews in some way, etc etc.
- longbrass 3y ago
  And these lies are not something that AI can be trusted to reveal, but a journalist can.
  - vlovich123 3y ago
    Ummm… what? Can you point to one major publication that is trying to cover this? Media corporations can control the narrative by controlling who they hire. It’s more expensive but they’ve been doing it for a long time so there’s institutional knowledge. Also, these same companies make their money on advertising so explain to me why you’d trust them to go after their sole remaining revenue stream?
    - longbrass 3y ago
      I can in fact point to the link at the top of this page as one example. Journalist have regularly covered journalism scandals. Can you point to AI that is capable of the same? Another example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelnoer/2014/11/12/read-the-original-forbes-takedown-of-stephen-glass https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelnoer/2014/11/12/read-the... https://www.thoughtco.com/the-top-journalism-scandals-2073750 https://www.thoughtco.com/the-top-journalism-scandals-207375...
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rchaud 3y ago
> 70 years ago there was a job for someone to stand in an elevator and press a button for the rider. Today we have jobs for people to rearticulate box scores. You might need such an assistant to summarize a Sports Illustrated issue; doesn't seem like you have any familiarity with it.

by bko 3y ago

genedan 3y ago

There are still elevators like that in the Fine Arts Building in Chicago. In addition to the elevators, it's a great place to be if you're a musician. There are studios, practice rooms, and musical instrument shops too.

bobthecowboy 3y ago
> If a computer can do it adequately it should be done by a computer Wasn't there recently some entirely AI "musician"? I'm guessing the person you're replying to doesn't see an ongoing need for musicians either.
filoleg 3y ago
The office building in Manhattan that I work at, the elevator is like that as well. I am fairly certain there are plenty of people on HN working in that same building who could corroborate this

vlovich123 3y ago

> But they really shouldn’t lie about it If you can’t tell then what’s the problem? If you can what’s the problem? I have bigger problems with everyday lies that already happen that are treated as “normal”. For example, advertising a price cut as if there’s a discount by raising the everyday price and discounting to the previous everyday price, using celebrities/influencers to promote products, paying for product reviews in some way, etc etc.

longbrass 3y ago
And these lies are not something that AI can be trusted to reveal, but a journalist can.
- vlovich123 3y ago
  Ummm… what? Can you point to one major publication that is trying to cover this? Media corporations can control the narrative by controlling who they hire. It’s more expensive but they’ve been doing it for a long time so there’s institutional knowledge. Also, these same companies make their money on advertising so explain to me why you’d trust them to go after their sole remaining revenue stream?
  - longbrass 3y ago
    I can in fact point to the link at the top of this page as one example. Journalist have regularly covered journalism scandals. Can you point to AI that is capable of the same? Another example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelnoer/2014/11/12/read-the-original-forbes-takedown-of-stephen-glass https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelnoer/2014/11/12/read-the... https://www.thoughtco.com/the-top-journalism-scandals-2073750 https://www.thoughtco.com/the-top-journalism-scandals-207375...

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rchaud 3y ago

> 70 years ago there was a job for someone to stand in an elevator and press a button for the rider. Today we have jobs for people to rearticulate box scores. You might need such an assistant to summarize a Sports Illustrated issue; doesn't seem like you have any familiarity with it.