7 ms·
They probably know that it doesn't hold water legally. The hope is to victim blame as much as possible so that fewer people sue them in the first place. The nex
by throwaway092323 3y ago
They probably know that it doesn't hold water legally. The hope is to victim blame as much as possible so that fewer people sue them in the first place. The next step will be to "remind" people about the TOS that they totally agreed to.
- lp0_on_fire 3y agoExactly. Same reason construction vehicles have "Stay back 200 feet: not responsible for broken windshields" written on the back.
- constantly 3y agoYep. A small tangent for anyone who has seen these: they’re very clearly not specifically enforceable. I got a window banged up by things falling off a truck with this signage, and the first thing they said when I called their “How Am I Driving” number the first thing they said was that they were not responsible citing this sign. Fortunately that sign was non binding. :)
- lelandfe 3y ago“If you can read this bumper sticker, the occupants of your vehicle agree to…”
- Rayhem 3y ago"Private sign, DO NOT READ"
- jstarfish 3y agoGeorgia (state) takes it a step further. They wrote an exemption to the license plate law that allows dump truck owners to display the plate only on the front of the vehicle. Makes it that much harder to hold them accountable.
- sonicanatidae 3y agoIts like they don't know drivers and their willingness to make "for damn sure" the other side is made aware of their displeasure. lol
- arwhatever 3y ago“Not responsible for black eye if something falls from your vehicle and damages my vehicle.”
- andrei_says_ 3y agoExcept that the truck driver has zero fault for the gravel on the road and the spacing between the tires and the mud guard of the truck his employer maintains. Or did you mean you’d seek out the ceo of the truck company and give them a black eye?
- sithlord 3y agoThis is usually related to drivers who do not use the cover of their truck they are legally supposed to. So rocks fly out the top.
- Tempest1981 3y agoOr dump trucks, which leak out the seams as they go over bumps
- arcanemachiner 3y agoAlso mud flaps
- londons_explore 3y agoAnd usually because the truck is over full too. For almost any load, if you fill the truck to the brim you have overloaded it. (Unless you're moving styrofoam)
- whaleofatw2022 3y agoOr smaller contractor type trucks with tools in them. Ever have to dodge an axe at 35MPH? Not fun.
- 93po 3y agoA driver has a legal obligation to not drive a vehicle that is spreading debris on the road, which they are often doing and that debris often comes from their construction sites. There are places that use track washing stations at entrances and exits to prevent this.
- dr-detroit 3y ago[dead]
- candiddevmike 3y agoDoes this apply to shopping carts in parking lots?
- eweise 3y agoAt least in California, its illegal for anything to fall from a vehicle except water and bird feathers so not sure how that sign help them.
- padjo 3y agoThe point being that while it’s not at all enforceable there’s a non zero number of people who will think it is and not fight it
- eshack94 3y agoIf I'm not mistaken, that's the point the person above you was making. Those stickers on dump trucks that say "Stay back 200 feet. Not responsible for broken windshields" are worthless from a legal perspective. They do absolutely nothing to remove liability from the truck driver/company. If a rock falls from their truck and cracks your windshield, they absolutely are responsible for any damages. Rather, their sole value is to convince drivers that the trucking companies aren't at fault, so that drivers whose vehicles are damaged from falling rocks erroneously elect not to press charges or pursue damages.
- listenallyall 3y agoSuch a lawsuit, if one was filed, would be in civil court, where nothing is guaranteed. If, in the unlikely case that the suit was not settled and it actually went to jury, no judge would direct that jury that truckers "absolutely are responsible for any damages." If you are tailgating directly behind a rock truck with a big sign "stay back 200 feet" for an extended period of time, or end up right behind the truck because you're in a big hurry, or because you thought you could squeeze through an empty lane, a good lawyer could absolutely argue, successfully, that you are at least halfway responsible for the damage, if not 100%.
- eweise 3y agoI disagree. Likely this type of suite would be handled in small claims court so there is no jury and no lawyers. Also, the law is really clear. There is no scenario where trucks are allowed to spill stuff on the road. The only argument they might try is to say that the rock didn't come from the truck but was kicked up off the road as they drove. But you know, that's probably not going to work if the truck was indeed carrying rocks. I think you might be giving lawyers too much credit. Really all they will do, is make it so painful for you to get in front of a judge, that you give up.
- dotnet00 3y agoor the "Warranty void if removed" stickers on electronics, which are not legally enforceable in the US.
- dylan604 3y agoThis looks like a perfect class action case. There's really no physical harm or financial harm to the users, but a class action might be the only way for it to hurt. But IANAL, and probably have it all wrong in my head???
- underwater 3y agoWhy is it that in the US individuals have to band together and privately launch a class action to stop these types of parasitic behaviours. The government is supposed to represent the interests of citizens.
- dylan604 3y agoLobbying. Citizens United. Disinterested populace. Do you need a longer list?
- tacocataco 3y agoFirst Past The Post voting discouraging competition in the electoral system.
- alistairSH 3y agoThat's exactly why - we have a largely dysfunctional federal government (and most state governments aren't much better). The biggest downside is the lawyers take a massive chunk of any award and the actual victims are often left with very little. Or, even worse, the victims get worthless coupons (like with many credit/PII breaches - the award will be 1-year of credit monitoring from the company that allowed the breach in the first place).
- BrandoElFollito 3y agoThis credit score system in the US always made me curious. Say some point I had a proposition to move to the US and I asked the company offering the job how they will ensure that I immediately get the best possible score. They said it was not possible because it was a personal score. I told them that I will certainly not start to build a credit score at 40 yo so they will have to find someone else.
- batch12 3y agoI wish a class action could include those of us who have never used their service, but whose relatives have.