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It may be extreme, but I think we need to pass legislation to make advertising networks civilly liable for fraud facilitated by their services. Google will chan

by Sanzig 3y ago

It may be extreme, but I think we need to pass legislation to make advertising networks civilly liable for fraud facilitated by their services. Google will change its tune quickly when it's their wallet on the line. As a bonus, this also provides a restitution path for victims (most of these frauds are run overseas, so the perpetrators are out of reach of the justice system).

graphe 3y ago
AdBlock tried gently with "acceptable ads". https://getadblock.com/en/acceptable-ads-faq/ https://getadblock.com/en/acceptable-ads-faq/ I don't mind the antagonistic method today since I will NEVER accept the idea that an ad is acceptable. The law you propose would help weaken advertising and that would make me happy. Apple killing targeted ads also made it worst. Sports gambling also makes the environment worst.
- fwn 3y ago
  For some reason, the acceptable ads program from eyeo led them to allow some of the worst, chumboxy paid content - as far as I remember. Coincidentally, the effort was paid for by the very same companies that ended up on the whitelist. From the outside, at least, this gave the impression that the whitelisting was simply paid for and covered up by a fig leaf process. I haven't checked in a while, but that program always struck me as deeply problematic. Today, that no longer matters, as ublock origin has emerged as a time-tested, no-compromise, user-choice content blocking solution.
- calamari4065 3y ago
  And that's why most people switched to uBlock. The acceptable ads was a pay to win thing and very quickly devolved into exactly the kind of cesspool you'd expect
wredue 3y ago
Google would respond by removing your country from using YouTube. Then it would be up to your country to call their bluff. Who know whether they would or not. Google held out for longer than I thought they would on the Canada link laws. Ultimately, Google would give in and reopen YouTube, but how long would it take and would people give up YouTube for several months while wait for governments to battle Google facilitating fraud?
- bluGill 3y ago
  As importantly, would peertube (or others) grow enough? Content is the biggest problem I have with peertube, so if Canada was forced out of youtube content providers might jump to peertube in large enough numbers that I can as well.

by Sanzig 3y ago

graphe 3y ago

AdBlock tried gently with "acceptable ads". https://getadblock.com/en/acceptable-ads-faq/ https://getadblock.com/en/acceptable-ads-faq/ I don't mind the antagonistic method today since I will NEVER accept the idea that an ad is acceptable. The law you propose would help weaken advertising and that would make me happy. Apple killing targeted ads also made it worst. Sports gambling also makes the environment worst.

fwn 3y ago
For some reason, the acceptable ads program from eyeo led them to allow some of the worst, chumboxy paid content - as far as I remember. Coincidentally, the effort was paid for by the very same companies that ended up on the whitelist. From the outside, at least, this gave the impression that the whitelisting was simply paid for and covered up by a fig leaf process. I haven't checked in a while, but that program always struck me as deeply problematic. Today, that no longer matters, as ublock origin has emerged as a time-tested, no-compromise, user-choice content blocking solution.
calamari4065 3y ago
And that's why most people switched to uBlock. The acceptable ads was a pay to win thing and very quickly devolved into exactly the kind of cesspool you'd expect

wredue 3y ago

Google would respond by removing your country from using YouTube. Then it would be up to your country to call their bluff. Who know whether they would or not. Google held out for longer than I thought they would on the Canada link laws. Ultimately, Google would give in and reopen YouTube, but how long would it take and would people give up YouTube for several months while wait for governments to battle Google facilitating fraud?

bluGill 3y ago
As importantly, would peertube (or others) grow enough? Content is the biggest problem I have with peertube, so if Canada was forced out of youtube content providers might jump to peertube in large enough numbers that I can as well.