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As a dev, I absolutely prefer Apple’s model of locked-down walled garden. HN has no idea about all the grandmas and people who are busy with their jobs and kids

As a dev, I absolutely prefer Apple’s model of locked-down walled garden. HN has no idea about all the grandmas and people who are busy with their jobs and kids, aka majority of the population. I can’t imagine the magnitude of digital fraud and scams that would happen if Apple devices weren’t a walled garden. My only dissatisfaction is that I can’t develop for iOS without buying a Mac and a developer account, but I also understand I’m not entitled to it just because I want.

InsomniacL 3y ago
Apple could still be a gate-keeper of 3rd party stores. They could dictate the security and protections that need to be in-place to be listed. The PKI industry is a good example of this. The Certificate authorities have to abide by standards and any misbehaving Certificate Authorities can be removed. I'd argue the integrity of the PKI industry is just as important, if not more so, than App Stores and they have managed to maintain a device agnostic market with healthy competition.
beacham 3y ago
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bryanlarsen 3y ago
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
matheusmoreira 3y ago
> I can’t imagine the magnitude of digital fraud and scams that would happen if Apple devices weren’t a walled garden. I can, and I don't mind. Let it happen. Computer freedom is more important than preventing scams and fraud. Just have the corporations and banks eat the losses instead. God knows these trillion dollar corporations can afford it.
- grok25 3y ago
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notnullorvoid 3y ago
How does allowing 3rd party app stores negatively affect the elderly? Just like Android the ability to install 3rd party apps and stores would likely be off by default and you'd need to enable it in the settings. And even after enabling it installing something gives you a pretty clear warning that what you're doing could be dangerous. If that's not enough warning for someone then they probably shouldn't have a smart phone, or if they do it should have strict parental controls on it (blocking 3rd party installs, most sites, and phone calls/texts).
- lookACamel 3y ago
  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/the-screen-started-moving-on-its-own-woman-loses-almost-30k-after-downloading-third-party-app https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/the-screen-started-mo... There have been many such cases.
- throwaway18636 3y ago
  Everything “off-by-default” is a “Ma’am, in order to refund the faulty transaction, I need you to open settings…” away.

InsomniacL 3y ago

Apple could still be a gate-keeper of 3rd party stores. They could dictate the security and protections that need to be in-place to be listed. The PKI industry is a good example of this. The Certificate authorities have to abide by standards and any misbehaving Certificate Authorities can be removed. I'd argue the integrity of the PKI industry is just as important, if not more so, than App Stores and they have managed to maintain a device agnostic market with healthy competition.

beacham 3y ago

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bryanlarsen 3y ago

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin

matheusmoreira 3y ago

> I can’t imagine the magnitude of digital fraud and scams that would happen if Apple devices weren’t a walled garden. I can, and I don't mind. Let it happen. Computer freedom is more important than preventing scams and fraud. Just have the corporations and banks eat the losses instead. God knows these trillion dollar corporations can afford it.

grok25 3y ago
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notnullorvoid 3y ago

How does allowing 3rd party app stores negatively affect the elderly? Just like Android the ability to install 3rd party apps and stores would likely be off by default and you'd need to enable it in the settings. And even after enabling it installing something gives you a pretty clear warning that what you're doing could be dangerous. If that's not enough warning for someone then they probably shouldn't have a smart phone, or if they do it should have strict parental controls on it (blocking 3rd party installs, most sites, and phone calls/texts).

lookACamel 3y ago
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/the-screen-started-moving-on-its-own-woman-loses-almost-30k-after-downloading-third-party-app https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/the-screen-started-mo... There have been many such cases.
throwaway18636 3y ago
Everything “off-by-default” is a “Ma’am, in order to refund the faulty transaction, I need you to open settings…” away.