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Why is it always about freedom of speech?
by qarl 3y ago
Why is it always about freedom of speech?
- dartos 3y agoIt’s vague and very well protected
- jdbernard 3y agoIANAL, but in my opinion this isn't actually a freedom of speech issue, it's a corporate personhood issue. Tesla the company should not have constitutional freedom of speech protections for it's marketing communications.
- creshal 3y agoBecause Elon's twitter friends claim to care about it so much, I guess.
- ape4 3y agoSpeech isn't entirely unlimited. Saying something that makes people over-trust your "autopilot" and kill other road users seems like a reasonable limit.
- raisedbyninjas 3y agoWhen the charge is you should have truth in advertising, the rebuttal of freedom of speech sounds better than lies in advertising.
- baz00 3y agoWell it's not about freedom of speech. It's freedom to tell lies publicly and not be held accountable for it by confusing what class of entity is making the speech. This is just covered by freedom of speech legislation. Telsa is acting in bad faith towards customers, the government and investors here.
- soco 3y agoAlso we are talking about a company not a person. Shouldn't that be a difference in face of legislation?
- ModernMech 3y agoThe same reason it’s always “for the children”; it sounds good and righteous if you don’t think critically.
- estebarb 3y agoNo idea, but I remembered when we had to tell people to stop drinking chlorine and they get mad because it was within their "freedom of speech".
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoIt seems like a loser argument to me. Free speech has never been a defense for false advertising; I'm not sure why Tesla thinks it will start working now. This sounds more like PR than like a real legal argument. And maybe that's exactly what's going on. Maybe they're trying to look good in public even if they lose the case.
- renegade-otter 3y agoRepeat "freedom of speech" enough times, and it stops having its meaning. So when the authoritarians come to power, you can scream "freedom of speech" all you want - no one will care. It's a brilliant tactic. It worked in the other direction with "fake news". Used to mean "actual made up news, usually from Russian proxy 'news' sites". Now the term is completely void of meaning.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoI thought the fake news was the claim that Trump was working for the Russians as an agent?
- hbarka 3y agoHow does the saying go? Something about freedom of speech isn’t freedom from the consequences of your speech? A recurring theme from MrMusk lately, it’s no longer genuine but now a cynical ploy.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoAs per saying - When you know how to use a hammer, then every problem is looking like a nail.
- concordDance 3y agoLawyers throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
- qarl 3y agoWell, no. Lawyers that have good arguments just use those good arguments. Lawyers with no good arguments throw everything at the wall.