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> I totally understand your frustration, but our failure so far should lead us to examine the obvious structural issues at fault here, and not abandon our fello

> I totally understand your frustration, but our failure so far should lead us to examine the obvious structural issues at fault here, and not abandon our fellow man and give in to the more basic instincts to push them away The issue isn't fundamentally structural. It's personal. There's no structure that I'm aware of that gets people to take more and more debilitating drugs, other than a lack of structure on stopping the drugs entering the country.

bbor 3y ago
The structures I’m talking about are along the lines of “if you have schizophrenia and don’t have rich parents then you probably will never be able to afford meaningful treatment”. Just to pick one. I know it’s tempting to assume everyone else is just morally bankrupt and hedonistic because they’re flawed, but I implore you to be more empathetic to their situation. I PROMISE you, homelessness is not fun, it does not feel good in any way, and no one in their right mind would ever “choose” to “take more and more drugs” knowing that was the endpoint.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  > The structures I’m talking about are along the lines of “if you have schizophrenia and don’t have rich parents then you probably will never be able to afford meaningful treatment”. This is not a structure. It's a situation. > I know it’s tempting to assume everyone else is just morally bankrupt and hedonistic because they’re flawed No - the only assumption is yours you're making here. No one is saying that. > no one in their right mind would ever “choose” to “take more and more drugs” knowing that was the endpoint No one said they would.
  - bbor 3y ago
    This is not a structure. It's a situation. Sorry, I was unclear: I was trying to highlight the fact that this situation is far, far less common in other countries, namely those with single-payer healthcare. That seems like pretty solid evidence that it’s a structural issue, not just… idk, circumstance? Chance? Otherwise sorry I misinterpreted you —- guess I’ll spend more time reading next time!

bbor 3y ago

The structures I’m talking about are along the lines of “if you have schizophrenia and don’t have rich parents then you probably will never be able to afford meaningful treatment”. Just to pick one. I know it’s tempting to assume everyone else is just morally bankrupt and hedonistic because they’re flawed, but I implore you to be more empathetic to their situation. I PROMISE you, homelessness is not fun, it does not feel good in any way, and no one in their right mind would ever “choose” to “take more and more drugs” knowing that was the endpoint.

robertlagrant 3y ago
> The structures I’m talking about are along the lines of “if you have schizophrenia and don’t have rich parents then you probably will never be able to afford meaningful treatment”. This is not a structure. It's a situation. > I know it’s tempting to assume everyone else is just morally bankrupt and hedonistic because they’re flawed No - the only assumption is yours you're making here. No one is saying that. > no one in their right mind would ever “choose” to “take more and more drugs” knowing that was the endpoint No one said they would.
- bbor 3y ago
  This is not a structure. It's a situation. Sorry, I was unclear: I was trying to highlight the fact that this situation is far, far less common in other countries, namely those with single-payer healthcare. That seems like pretty solid evidence that it’s a structural issue, not just… idk, circumstance? Chance? Otherwise sorry I misinterpreted you —- guess I’ll spend more time reading next time!