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I'm lost; how does big brother play in? > " think, is that we cannot reliably reflect/contextualize about today's news/events until it becomes history, i.e. re

I'm lost; how does big brother play in? > " think, is that we cannot reliably reflect/contextualize about today's news/events until it becomes history, i.e. reliability" This is exactly my point so far:: the best approximation I have for contextualizing today's news is by examining the diff of today's history and yesterday's news. I'm not confident in my grammar; let me make a graphic: ...................................... ..........|yesterday|Today news...| A ........ | x history.| B ........ | C ...................................... diff(x, reality) ~= diff(A,C) ...................................... Given A, C, and x; my goal is to determine reality, with the assumption that x does not necessarily equal reality. over repeated days: diff(x+1, reality+1) ~= diff(A,C) + diff(A-1, B) + diff(A-2,B-1) ~= integral(diff(A,C))dt So, over time, reading current news allows me to contextualize current news as a function of how it became history in the past; increasing my ability to evaluate >"reliability" of current news. Whatever improvement I'm looking for almost certainly lies in reading history, and comparing to what would have been current news at the time. Is this where you're imagining big brother?

jruohonen 3y ago
"'Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past." Look to the East.
aspenmayer 3y ago
Here’s a recent example of extraterritorial gag orders targeting news outlets, which would necessarily impinge our ability to read between the lies/lines: https://www.404media.co/reuters-takes-down-blockbuster-hacker-for-hire-investigation-after-indian-court-order/ https://www.404media.co/reuters-takes-down-blockbuster-hacke... I’m “posting too fast” or I’d submit it to HN myself - feel free to do so, dear reader, as it belongs on HN. > “Reuters has temporarily removed the article ‘How an Indian startup hacked the world’ to comply with a preliminary court order issued on Dec. 4, 2023, in a district court in New Delhi, India. Reuters stands by its reporting and plans to appeal the decision,” the editor’s note reads. An archive of the story, hosted on the Wayback Machine, is available here. https://web.archive.org/web/20231116164611/https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-hackers-appin/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231116164611/https://www.reute...
- aspenmayer 3y ago
  It’s already added as of a few days ago; Algolia seems to have been down around the same time HN was down - last few hours have been spotty but seems back up now.
- singlepaynews 3y ago
  I see your point; can't the reporting of the gag order itself can also be included in the 'news' training set? I keep coming back to an infinite necessity of news/reporting; definitely read more than just news, but nothing in this thread has pointed me to "stop reading news", as the title directs.
  - aspenmayer 3y ago
    I agree, I don’t agree with the thesis of the OP either

jruohonen 3y ago

"'Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past." Look to the East.

aspenmayer 3y ago

Here’s a recent example of extraterritorial gag orders targeting news outlets, which would necessarily impinge our ability to read between the lies/lines: https://www.404media.co/reuters-takes-down-blockbuster-hacker-for-hire-investigation-after-indian-court-order/ https://www.404media.co/reuters-takes-down-blockbuster-hacke... I’m “posting too fast” or I’d submit it to HN myself - feel free to do so, dear reader, as it belongs on HN. > “Reuters has temporarily removed the article ‘How an Indian startup hacked the world’ to comply with a preliminary court order issued on Dec. 4, 2023, in a district court in New Delhi, India. Reuters stands by its reporting and plans to appeal the decision,” the editor’s note reads. An archive of the story, hosted on the Wayback Machine, is available here. https://web.archive.org/web/20231116164611/https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-hackers-appin/ https://web.archive.org/web/20231116164611/https://www.reute...

aspenmayer 3y ago
It’s already added as of a few days ago; Algolia seems to have been down around the same time HN was down - last few hours have been spotty but seems back up now.
singlepaynews 3y ago
I see your point; can't the reporting of the gag order itself can also be included in the 'news' training set? I keep coming back to an infinite necessity of news/reporting; definitely read more than just news, but nothing in this thread has pointed me to "stop reading news", as the title directs.
- aspenmayer 3y ago
  I agree, I don’t agree with the thesis of the OP either