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But they are the ones that allowed those companies to compete in the first place. And I'm not saying that they should have won. Both Apple and Google losing w

by nerdix 3y ago

But they are the ones that allowed those companies to compete in the first place. And I'm not saying that they should have won. Both Apple and Google losing would have been the best outcome. However, Google losing and Apple winning is the worst. Because its makes open platforms even less attractive to businesses.

LordKeren 3y ago
Unfortunately, apple’s position as both phone manufacturer, iOS manufacturer, and App Store maintainer resulted in them being able to successfully argue that their control over the App Store was a feature that was expected by users and was needed to maintain a smooth and secure operating ecosystem Google, on the other hand, just got pilloried because they are not the phone manufacturer (for the most post), but instead were using their position as the producers of android to pressure phone manufacturers and companies to not compete. Their own internal docs showed the extreme lengths they were willing to go to stop companies from producing third party apps stores. It was this stifling of completion that just got them reamed by the court
- hackernewds 3y ago
  if you zoom out you find that Google got published for allowing other manufacturers into their Android system while Apple benefited from keeping ios closed to themselves. how does this serve the consumers ultimately
  - LordKeren 3y ago
    Google got punished for paying off companies to not compete with the Google Play Store.
    - ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
      You are in this hyper dense loop of just repeating the same thing, which is adding 0 here. It's quite literally impossible for apple to be do the same, because they've banned installing apps at all on their platform. Clearly the right move for Google would have been to do the same 15 years ago and saved themselves the headache.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        Yes because we see how well that Google has been at selling hardware
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Well seeing that consumers in the US prefer iOS to Android and pay more than twice as much for the privilege, may they care about different things than side loading?

by nerdix 3y ago

LordKeren 3y ago

Unfortunately, apple’s position as both phone manufacturer, iOS manufacturer, and App Store maintainer resulted in them being able to successfully argue that their control over the App Store was a feature that was expected by users and was needed to maintain a smooth and secure operating ecosystem Google, on the other hand, just got pilloried because they are not the phone manufacturer (for the most post), but instead were using their position as the producers of android to pressure phone manufacturers and companies to not compete. Their own internal docs showed the extreme lengths they were willing to go to stop companies from producing third party apps stores. It was this stifling of completion that just got them reamed by the court

hackernewds 3y ago
if you zoom out you find that Google got published for allowing other manufacturers into their Android system while Apple benefited from keeping ios closed to themselves. how does this serve the consumers ultimately
- LordKeren 3y ago
  Google got punished for paying off companies to not compete with the Google Play Store.
  - ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
    You are in this hyper dense loop of just repeating the same thing, which is adding 0 here. It's quite literally impossible for apple to be do the same, because they've banned installing apps at all on their platform. Clearly the right move for Google would have been to do the same 15 years ago and saved themselves the headache.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Yes because we see how well that Google has been at selling hardware
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Well seeing that consumers in the US prefer iOS to Android and pay more than twice as much for the privilege, may they care about different things than side loading?