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I don't get who's for this. The Trumpian "don't tread on me" populists who mistrust government don't want it, do they? The left wing "everything is about race a

I don't get who's for this. The Trumpian "don't tread on me" populists who mistrust government don't want it, do they? The left wing "everything is about race and gender" don't want it, do they? Like, honestly, is anyone other than LEOs themselves arguing for civil asset forfeiture?

sbuttgereit 3y ago
The "The Trumpian 'don't tread on me' populists", for the most part, have no trouble with this. They don't mistrust government at all... as long as it's their conception of government, supporting their priorities. The "don't tread on me" is just a convenient phrase to trot out when things aren't going their way. Think about it, these are often the same people that tout their "tough on crime" stances and support for civil asset forfeiture is a way of showing support for making law enforcement's job easier. For some, an arrest is as good as guilt. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/jeff-sessions-and-the-resurgence-of-civil-asset-forfeiture https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/jeff-sessions-and-t...
- artificialLimbs 3y ago
  Hello. Trumpian don’t tread on me populist here. Civil asset forfeiture should get the ban hammer.
  - sbuttgereit 3y ago
    If only you could convince the people you'd like to see in power to agree. There's much more that could be said about how willing those you apparently support are willing to put the machinery of government power to work treading on everyone that doesn't tow their line, but that discussion is unlikely to move anyone here.
    - artificialLimbs 3y ago
      >> If only you could convince the people you'd like to see in power to agree. And how about you, with the people you'd like to see in power?
      - linksnapzz 3y ago
        He's all for extraconstitutional seizure of anyone's property; provided they voted for Trump, that is.
      - Jetrel 3y ago
        Well, we had two recent presidents. In all honesty, I was totally willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt; like he was talking a big circus, but sometimes for a politician that's just "dazzle and chaff" to distract the media. In and among the nonsense there were a bunch of great promises, like pulling us out of China, getting massive infrastructure projects, resourcing a ton of our manufacturing from Mexico, maybe finally taking out the Ayatollah. Legitimately good shit! So like; honestly if he was gonna do any of that, I'm game, man. We need it. … If I sit back and objectively look at it … he did a couple of tiny "token gestures", like saving a few hundred jobs at the Carrier plant, or whacking Soleimani. But for the most part … almost none of it got done, and not because of "Democratic obstruction", but because he just didn't even try. At all. Really had me bummed, because damn if he wasn't -saying- all right stuff, but honestly I feel like I just got taken for a ride, you know? Like he said all that stuff just to get elected, and then just forgot about us. Meanwhile Biden's doing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/06/09/biden-administration-announces-savings-43-prescription-drugs-part-cost-saving-measures-president-bidens-inflation-reduction-act.html https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/06/09/biden-administrati... https://fortune.com/2023/04/17/biden-manufacturing-chips-companies-spending-200-billion/ https://fortune.com/2023/04/17/biden-manufacturing-chips-com... https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/12/08/watershed-moment-for-us-rail-with-8-billion-for-passenger-bullet-train-projects/?sh=23400006d082 https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/12/08/watershe... … I don't care who delivers, but I do take note of who chose not to do so, and don't vote for them a second time. "Fool me once".
        sonicanatidae 3y ago
        You, believed Trump? Wow.. just grand mal stupid there, friend. Try not to die crossing streets out there.
  - sonicanatidae 3y ago
    Shouldn't you be fomenting a rebellion or gargling orange testicles or something? You're looking for FOX, not Hacker News. edit: awww.. did the wittle snowfwake get him wittle feewings hurt after voting for literal treason? Cry me a river, traitor.

sbuttgereit 3y ago

The "The Trumpian 'don't tread on me' populists", for the most part, have no trouble with this. They don't mistrust government at all... as long as it's their conception of government, supporting their priorities. The "don't tread on me" is just a convenient phrase to trot out when things aren't going their way. Think about it, these are often the same people that tout their "tough on crime" stances and support for civil asset forfeiture is a way of showing support for making law enforcement's job easier. For some, an arrest is as good as guilt. https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/jeff-sessions-and-the-resurgence-of-civil-asset-forfeiture https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/jeff-sessions-and-t...

artificialLimbs 3y ago
Hello. Trumpian don’t tread on me populist here. Civil asset forfeiture should get the ban hammer.
- sbuttgereit 3y ago
  If only you could convince the people you'd like to see in power to agree. There's much more that could be said about how willing those you apparently support are willing to put the machinery of government power to work treading on everyone that doesn't tow their line, but that discussion is unlikely to move anyone here.
  - artificialLimbs 3y ago
    >> If only you could convince the people you'd like to see in power to agree. And how about you, with the people you'd like to see in power?
    - linksnapzz 3y ago
      He's all for extraconstitutional seizure of anyone's property; provided they voted for Trump, that is.
    - Jetrel 3y ago
      Well, we had two recent presidents. In all honesty, I was totally willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt; like he was talking a big circus, but sometimes for a politician that's just "dazzle and chaff" to distract the media. In and among the nonsense there were a bunch of great promises, like pulling us out of China, getting massive infrastructure projects, resourcing a ton of our manufacturing from Mexico, maybe finally taking out the Ayatollah. Legitimately good shit! So like; honestly if he was gonna do any of that, I'm game, man. We need it. … If I sit back and objectively look at it … he did a couple of tiny "token gestures", like saving a few hundred jobs at the Carrier plant, or whacking Soleimani. But for the most part … almost none of it got done, and not because of "Democratic obstruction", but because he just didn't even try. At all. Really had me bummed, because damn if he wasn't -saying- all right stuff, but honestly I feel like I just got taken for a ride, you know? Like he said all that stuff just to get elected, and then just forgot about us. Meanwhile Biden's doing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/06/09/biden-administration-announces-savings-43-prescription-drugs-part-cost-saving-measures-president-bidens-inflation-reduction-act.html https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/06/09/biden-administrati... https://fortune.com/2023/04/17/biden-manufacturing-chips-companies-spending-200-billion/ https://fortune.com/2023/04/17/biden-manufacturing-chips-com... https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/12/08/watershed-moment-for-us-rail-with-8-billion-for-passenger-bullet-train-projects/?sh=23400006d082 https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/12/08/watershe... … I don't care who delivers, but I do take note of who chose not to do so, and don't vote for them a second time. "Fool me once".
      - sonicanatidae 3y ago
        You, believed Trump? Wow.. just grand mal stupid there, friend. Try not to die crossing streets out there.
- sonicanatidae 3y ago
  Shouldn't you be fomenting a rebellion or gargling orange testicles or something? You're looking for FOX, not Hacker News. edit: awww.. did the wittle snowfwake get him wittle feewings hurt after voting for literal treason? Cry me a river, traitor.