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Well firstly there's about 2x more Europeans than Americans by population, and secondly 44% of Americans don't even own a passport.

missedthecue 3y ago
Only 41% of Germans have a passport. I don't see your point. We can adjust for population and the data is still clear. EU citizens would rather be in the US than the other way around. And the EU is only about 30% larger not 100%.
- Detrytus 3y ago
  Well, Germans without a passport can still travel all around the Europe. Passport is only needed if you plan to go outside EU - that should be a factor in this comparison.
  - missedthecue 3y ago
    And a US passport is only needed if you travel outside of the 50 states that comprise the union.
    - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
      true, but it's not the same thing An European citizen can go to Egypt or Estonia or the Canary Islands or Iceland or Norway or Switzerland without a passport OTOH it's easier to learn English for an European - we all study it in primary schools - and go to the US than for an American to learn Norwegian and move to Norway. It's also a lot less of a cultural shock to go EU->USA than the other way around.
- askonomm 3y ago
  So now you are suddenly talking about the EU? I thought we were talking about Europe. Europe is not the same as European Union, and Europe is in fact more than double the population of U.S. Germany, being one of the most backwards countries in the entire Europe, is not a good representation of every European country.
- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  well, first of all many European countries have IDs that are valid for travel abroad, while in the US no such thing exists. Secondly EU citizen can travel all over Europe (except Russia), in some Northern African countries and in many of the lands once a colony, such as French Antilles (or French West Indies), without a passport.
- aziaziazi 3y ago
  > EU citizens would rather be in the US than the other way around Any source? I doubt many EU citizen would agree with that, especially those aware of US work and health system.

missedthecue 3y ago

Only 41% of Germans have a passport. I don't see your point. We can adjust for population and the data is still clear. EU citizens would rather be in the US than the other way around. And the EU is only about 30% larger not 100%.

Detrytus 3y ago
Well, Germans without a passport can still travel all around the Europe. Passport is only needed if you plan to go outside EU - that should be a factor in this comparison.
- missedthecue 3y ago
  And a US passport is only needed if you travel outside of the 50 states that comprise the union.
  - peoplefromibiza 3y ago
    true, but it's not the same thing An European citizen can go to Egypt or Estonia or the Canary Islands or Iceland or Norway or Switzerland without a passport OTOH it's easier to learn English for an European - we all study it in primary schools - and go to the US than for an American to learn Norwegian and move to Norway. It's also a lot less of a cultural shock to go EU->USA than the other way around.
askonomm 3y ago
So now you are suddenly talking about the EU? I thought we were talking about Europe. Europe is not the same as European Union, and Europe is in fact more than double the population of U.S. Germany, being one of the most backwards countries in the entire Europe, is not a good representation of every European country.
peoplefromibiza 3y ago
well, first of all many European countries have IDs that are valid for travel abroad, while in the US no such thing exists. Secondly EU citizen can travel all over Europe (except Russia), in some Northern African countries and in many of the lands once a colony, such as French Antilles (or French West Indies), without a passport.
aziaziazi 3y ago
> EU citizens would rather be in the US than the other way around Any source? I doubt many EU citizen would agree with that, especially those aware of US work and health system.