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> - The 3d transforms on code previews is annoying, please don't Calling this one out specifically to agree, please don't do this, don't degrade readability, i

> - The 3d transforms on code previews is annoying, please don't Calling this one out specifically to agree, please don't do this, don't degrade readability, it serves nobody and likely excites only people who aren't Caddy's audience. The CA one with long lines that overflow is especially obnoxious to try to read.

verdverm 3y ago
what's hilarious is that the Y: -25deg comes from a marketing.css
- mholt 3y ago
  Yes we share this CSS across multiple marketing pages.
  - verdverm 3y ago
    It's more that this undesirable visual comes from marketing as we expected and suspected, because usually marketing does things that are anti-usability and readability for the flashiness, not realizing that it works against them.
mholt 3y ago
Interesting; the 3D transforms don't actually affect how much text fits on a line. So even if we remove the transform, the text will still wrap/overflow. It does actually excite some of our readers, for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23072414 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23072414 I've also heard a lot off any record that the content is really interesting even though it is a lot of text, because of the subtle spatial effect. If there's an accessibility issue I could look into putting a toggle to flatten them out.
- verdverm 3y ago
  re: tilted code, you have more statements against it here than you have for it at the link, where there is just one afaict neither is statistically significant > I've also heard a lot off any record Are these people already caddy users? Probably not the right people to ask, they are early adopters and typically positive of most things a project does outside of the part they use
- starkparker 3y ago
  I don't care that it wraps and overflows. I care that scrolling tilted text degrades readability in two different ways at the same time, and one of them is utterly unnecessary. EDIT: Since it sounds like it's not clear why this is bad, scrolling text horizontally and having it move diagonally is an objectively poor experience.

verdverm 3y ago

what's hilarious is that the Y: -25deg comes from a marketing.css

mholt 3y ago
Yes we share this CSS across multiple marketing pages.
- verdverm 3y ago
  It's more that this undesirable visual comes from marketing as we expected and suspected, because usually marketing does things that are anti-usability and readability for the flashiness, not realizing that it works against them.

mholt 3y ago

Interesting; the 3D transforms don't actually affect how much text fits on a line. So even if we remove the transform, the text will still wrap/overflow. It does actually excite some of our readers, for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23072414 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23072414 I've also heard a lot off any record that the content is really interesting even though it is a lot of text, because of the subtle spatial effect. If there's an accessibility issue I could look into putting a toggle to flatten them out.

verdverm 3y ago
re: tilted code, you have more statements against it here than you have for it at the link, where there is just one afaict neither is statistically significant > I've also heard a lot off any record Are these people already caddy users? Probably not the right people to ask, they are early adopters and typically positive of most things a project does outside of the part they use
starkparker 3y ago
I don't care that it wraps and overflows. I care that scrolling tilted text degrades readability in two different ways at the same time, and one of them is utterly unnecessary. EDIT: Since it sounds like it's not clear why this is bad, scrolling text horizontally and having it move diagonally is an objectively poor experience.