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Do we know that beeper wasn’t cut off by e.g. an automated spam algorithm? I saw lots of technical discussion in previous threads that stated that they were us
by misnome 3y ago
Do we know that beeper wasn’t cut off by e.g. an automated spam algorithm?
I saw lots of technical discussion in previous threads that stated that they were using the same faked hardware ID for all messages… that would seem an obvious red flag.
- freedomben 3y agoI'm dying to know the technical details, but I wouldn't advise Beeper to disclose because it will just make it easier for Apple to block them.
- modeless 3y agoBeeper Cloud was running for years before, and Apple released a statement at the time they blocked Beeper Mini. This was not automated.
- lxgr 3y agoBeeper Cloud was running on actual Apple hardware until October 2023, which is when they switched to the software emulation approach that Beeper Mini is also employing.
- modeless 3y agoYes, but if Apple's complaint is truly about security then they should have blocked it even harder before, because the cloud version wasn't E2EE. Their behavior reveals that security is not their real concern here.
- lxgr 3y agoStructurally, the cloud version was you logging into your iMessage account on a friend's computer. How could Apple possibly prevent that? I think it actually makes a pretty strong case for Apple opening up a better interface that lets people achieve the same outcome they clearly desire so much, they'd even compromise their own security to achieve it.
- modeless 3y agoApple had plenty of ways to detect a datacenter full of Mac minis logging into iMessage accounts from all over the world, multiple on each machine, with custom software automating message sending, which I believe is even open source so Apple could look at it.