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A walled down proprietary messaging platform is so common as to be unremarkable. Google has probably 5 in the works right now. Meta has a few, and there’s dozen

A walled down proprietary messaging platform is so common as to be unremarkable. Google has probably 5 in the works right now. Meta has a few, and there’s dozens of others to choose from. It was really cool news when they reverse engineered the API. It was less cool when they sold paid access to this unofficial API. Beeper is barely pro-consumer because again, they’re charging for something open sourced by a 16yo kid which has no official support. The green bubble blue bubble story is really tired. Yea it’s real, but it’s not a technical problem it’s a social problem. Haven’t we learned that you can’t out-hacker a social problem?

jxf 3y ago
> The green bubble blue bubble story is really tired. Yea it’s real, but it’s not a technical problem it’s a social problem. It's both. For example, Apple degrades the experience for "green bubbles" even though it doesn't need to. That's not, strictly speaking, a social problem.
- Pulcinella 3y ago
  Apple doesn't degrade the experience, that's a carrier limitation when sending SMS and MMS messages to anyone even other iPhone users. E.g. MMS messages generally have to fit within 300-600KB so they are horribly, horribly compressed. https://m.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=mms https://m.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=mms
unshavedyak 3y ago
Is this paid? I thought it was free. As for beeper cloud, I’m a paying customer to Apple and I just want to use my damn chat app on desktop that I pay for.
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  It’s paid. It’s cheap ($2/mo?) but it’s a subscription.
  - unshavedyak 3y ago
    Yea, i actually disagree with that. Generally i'm in favor of Beeper Mini if can be used by people who already pay Apple (like i want my Android tablet to have my iPhone iMessage or w/e), but odd to me that they're charging monthly for a service they don't host. Put a tiny flat rate on the app for the work that they crated and call it a day.

jxf 3y ago

> The green bubble blue bubble story is really tired. Yea it’s real, but it’s not a technical problem it’s a social problem. It's both. For example, Apple degrades the experience for "green bubbles" even though it doesn't need to. That's not, strictly speaking, a social problem.

Pulcinella 3y ago
Apple doesn't degrade the experience, that's a carrier limitation when sending SMS and MMS messages to anyone even other iPhone users. E.g. MMS messages generally have to fit within 300-600KB so they are horribly, horribly compressed. https://m.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=mms https://m.gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=mms

unshavedyak 3y ago

Is this paid? I thought it was free. As for beeper cloud, I’m a paying customer to Apple and I just want to use my damn chat app on desktop that I pay for.

vineyardmike 3y ago
It’s paid. It’s cheap ($2/mo?) but it’s a subscription.
- unshavedyak 3y ago
  Yea, i actually disagree with that. Generally i'm in favor of Beeper Mini if can be used by people who already pay Apple (like i want my Android tablet to have my iPhone iMessage or w/e), but odd to me that they're charging monthly for a service they don't host. Put a tiny flat rate on the app for the work that they crated and call it a day.