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Nobody is locked into Apple products because of iMessage.

rpmisms 3y ago
Apple disagrees https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-confirms-imessage-locks-users-into-ios-and-putting-it-on-android-would-hurt-apple/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-confirms-imessage-locks-...
- encoderer 3y ago
  Most iPhones are not purchased by parents for kids. You’re fixated on this but it’s a footnote for why people buy iPhones.
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    You said nobody, I provided evidence that "nobody" is false.
    - encoderer 3y ago
      Me buying an iPhone for my kids doesn’t make me locked into the platform. I just want my kids on the same platform as I am. Where is the lock in?
      - sahila 3y ago
        What is the reason you want your kids on the same platform? Is it perhaps because it's easier to message them, do photo sharing/albums, see their location, have airtags work on both? At least for a sizable group my extended family included it's a lock-in for iPhones (or a very strong social disincentive to switch).
        encoderer 3y ago
        Yes exactly - it’s the whole Apple experience. If iMessage started working on android it would remove one reason to get my kid an iPhone. I still have 20 more.
        sahila 3y ago
        I don't think that list of reasons are long, for me personally iMessage is the reason I'm not switching to Android alone. For others, it might take more but once you start to remove reasons, switching can be based on competitive reasons instead of lockin, ie iPhones are better devices than Pixels and worth the premium vs today I have to get an iPhone because I want to use the dominant communication tool to talk to family.
  - tadfisher 3y ago
    Maybe true, but 87% of teens self-reported owning an iPhone [1]. The blue-bubble effect is real, and this cohort is facing enormous pressure to use iMessage specifically. I wouldn't call it a footnote, personally. 1: https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/04/iphone-is-still-the-top-smartphone-choice-for-teenagers https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/04/iphone-is-still-t...
hamandcheese 3y ago
iMessage is one of the primary reasons I will not buy an Android phone.

Apple disagrees https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-confirms-imessage-locks-users-into-ios-and-putting-it-on-android-would-hurt-apple/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-confirms-imessage-locks-...

encoderer 3y ago
Most iPhones are not purchased by parents for kids. You’re fixated on this but it’s a footnote for why people buy iPhones.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  You said nobody, I provided evidence that "nobody" is false.
  - encoderer 3y ago
    Me buying an iPhone for my kids doesn’t make me locked into the platform. I just want my kids on the same platform as I am. Where is the lock in?
    - sahila 3y ago
      What is the reason you want your kids on the same platform? Is it perhaps because it's easier to message them, do photo sharing/albums, see their location, have airtags work on both? At least for a sizable group my extended family included it's a lock-in for iPhones (or a very strong social disincentive to switch).
      - encoderer 3y ago
        Yes exactly - it’s the whole Apple experience. If iMessage started working on android it would remove one reason to get my kid an iPhone. I still have 20 more.
        sahila 3y ago
        I don't think that list of reasons are long, for me personally iMessage is the reason I'm not switching to Android alone. For others, it might take more but once you start to remove reasons, switching can be based on competitive reasons instead of lockin, ie iPhones are better devices than Pixels and worth the premium vs today I have to get an iPhone because I want to use the dominant communication tool to talk to family.
- tadfisher 3y ago
  Maybe true, but 87% of teens self-reported owning an iPhone [1]. The blue-bubble effect is real, and this cohort is facing enormous pressure to use iMessage specifically. I wouldn't call it a footnote, personally. 1: https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/04/iphone-is-still-the-top-smartphone-choice-for-teenagers https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/04/04/iphone-is-still-t...

hamandcheese 3y ago

iMessage is one of the primary reasons I will not buy an Android phone.