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I hadn't see this manifesto. Honestly never seen anything 'techno-optimist' before today. I am aware of Andreessen, who isnt? >Silicon Valley has made faith-ba
by incomingpain 3y ago
I hadn't see this manifesto. Honestly never seen anything 'techno-optimist' before today. I am aware of Andreessen, who isnt?
>Silicon Valley has made faith-based appeals for years, if not decades.
I've never been to silicon valley. I hear it's beautiful though. I'm going to respond more toward the manifesto from here. Not so much OP anymore, their negativity isn't useful. Somehow going from an optimistic manifesto to Andreessen is Benito Mussolini and fascist is more a reflection on OP and not anything else. They project their own mental health issues here.
>We are being lied to.
We are, and it's so bad for humanity. People believe completely incorrect things. They are told to distrust their neighbour and never help each other. It's so sad. They are told to turn up their nose to the homeless, step over them or avoid them. So sad.
>Our civilization is built on technology.
Welcome to the tech revolution. We have for the first time ever been able to communicate with each other at scale. We have learnt that the media has been lying to us and pinning us against each other. When in reality everyone in my community is a really good person. Completely unlike we are taught to believe.
>We are told to be miserable about the future.
We are at the precipice of a major food breakthrough which should eliminate world hunger; soon. High quality food might end up at a nominal cost where advertising will cover the cost of a meal. Science/technology is saving humanity. I literally cant fathom a reason to be miserable. I just wish I can contribute to this in some way.
We now know the cure to cancer. We now know the fix to heart disease. We must deal with this reality of eliminating most of the major causes of early death. We must go into an amazing future with far greater life expectancy. Scary, world population about to climb a great deal. We don't know what this future looks like. No doubt this is triggering the malthusians, they do seem to be pushing birth control, abortion, and telling you not to have kids. They are trying to convince you to go against your own nature. Bizarre how successful they have been.
>I am here to bring the good news.
So far I'm loving everything about this manifesto.
>We believe not growing is stagnation, which leads to zero-sum thinking, internal fighting, degradation, collapse, and ultimately death.
I'm like 10% into this manifesto and frankly I feel like I'm 100% aligned. Dare I even just say I'm right there with the rest of it and not go line by line lol? Without even reading it?
Dare I say I'm a techno-optimist without finishing reading this? It has been that correct so far.
>You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks.
Guess I'm not allowed to be supportive of this manifesto? I'm getting shadow banned on HN? I barely even came back... checking my posts I haven't been able to post 2 in hours. What exactly is 'too fast' about posting nothing for 2 hours. Why is HN not allowing discussions?
While I remain shadow banned, I continued to read. I did find something I didn't agree with... took some effort. I really wanted to find something I disagreed with.
>We believe any deceleration of AI will cost lives. Deaths that were preventable by the AI that was prevented from existing is a form of murder.
I think perhaps murder isn't the right word. Unethical? Immoral? Sure. Murder? Probably not. I don't agree with the statement as it stands.
>Patron Saints of Techno-Optimism
I guess it is a religion? There isn't a church near me, but I'm a convert. Am I allowed to open a church? I literally found nothing else to disagree with here. If this is a religion I'm joining.
3 hours, still shadow banned on HN. Let's see if I can post.