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Whatever transgressions Sam allegedly made that led to his firing don't matter, now that he was re-hired promptly by OpenAI. The only take away here is that the

Whatever transgressions Sam allegedly made that led to his firing don't matter, now that he was re-hired promptly by OpenAI. The only take away here is that the previous board was clearly unfit to make any major decisions concerning the company.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
No, so far the take away is that they weren't sufficiently powerful to follow through on the decision. Not that they were wrong to attempt to. To determine that it is exactly his transgressions that matter.
- Timber-6539 3y ago
  > so far the take away is that they weren't sufficiently powerful to follow through on the decision. > previous board was clearly unfit to make any major decisions concerning the company. We are saying the same thing.
  - cthalupa 3y ago
    These are not the same thing. There is no guarantee in life that the people that are "right" will have the power to do the right thing, no matter how skilled they are.
shkkmo 3y ago
It wasn't that prompt...it took significant pressure from Microsoft and a well coordinated media campaign. I don't see how this makes any past behavior irrelevant. It provides important information to people who are asked to sit on a board with him or who are considering working at a company he runs.
- Timber-6539 3y ago
  > It wasn't that prompt He was back at OpenAI in less than a week from his firing. > I don't see how this makes any past behavior irrelevant. You don't have to see anything. The conclusion from all the smoke and mirrors that emerged is that Altman was hired back at OpenAI. Rendering the previous board's decision null.
ethanbond 3y ago
There’s a whole article right here full of other takeaways. What a ridiculous over-simplification.
- Timber-6539 3y ago
  Article doesn't explain anything definite about the whole kerfuffle regarding Sam's firing other than to provide elaborate innuendos that have little basis without official quotes from concerned parties.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    Sure, there's still a lot of ambiguity. If you want to say "the only thing we definitely know right now is that the board was incapable," then I can agree with that. That doesn't mean there's not more to be learned and we need to dismiss new information. Obviously there's a distinction between the board being incapable of making good decisions or the board being incapable of effectuating good decisions, which is what everyone is keen to learn, and why people are interested in these articles.

giraffe_lady 3y ago

No, so far the take away is that they weren't sufficiently powerful to follow through on the decision. Not that they were wrong to attempt to. To determine that it is exactly his transgressions that matter.

Timber-6539 3y ago
> so far the take away is that they weren't sufficiently powerful to follow through on the decision. > previous board was clearly unfit to make any major decisions concerning the company. We are saying the same thing.
- cthalupa 3y ago
  These are not the same thing. There is no guarantee in life that the people that are "right" will have the power to do the right thing, no matter how skilled they are.

shkkmo 3y ago

It wasn't that prompt...it took significant pressure from Microsoft and a well coordinated media campaign. I don't see how this makes any past behavior irrelevant. It provides important information to people who are asked to sit on a board with him or who are considering working at a company he runs.

Timber-6539 3y ago
> It wasn't that prompt He was back at OpenAI in less than a week from his firing. > I don't see how this makes any past behavior irrelevant. You don't have to see anything. The conclusion from all the smoke and mirrors that emerged is that Altman was hired back at OpenAI. Rendering the previous board's decision null.

ethanbond 3y ago

There’s a whole article right here full of other takeaways. What a ridiculous over-simplification.

Timber-6539 3y ago
Article doesn't explain anything definite about the whole kerfuffle regarding Sam's firing other than to provide elaborate innuendos that have little basis without official quotes from concerned parties.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  Sure, there's still a lot of ambiguity. If you want to say "the only thing we definitely know right now is that the board was incapable," then I can agree with that. That doesn't mean there's not more to be learned and we need to dismiss new information. Obviously there's a distinction between the board being incapable of making good decisions or the board being incapable of effectuating good decisions, which is what everyone is keen to learn, and why people are interested in these articles.