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I submitted this link 1 day ago, but I am not sure why it's on the front page now, as it says I posted it just 1 hour ago https://news.ycombinator.com/submitte

I submitted this link 1 day ago, but I am not sure why it's on the front page now, as it says I posted it just 1 hour ago https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=georgehill https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=georgehill

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bmacho 3y ago
Moderators often resubmit submissions with fake time. (I pretty much hate this. I don't like people lying things about me, like I was using HN at a time I wasn't. Be aware of this.)
- lloydatkinson 3y ago
  Why?
  - enriquto 3y ago
    It's an invasion of privacy. Imagine that a post appears under your name with a date/time where you are supposed to be working. If you are paid by somebody else, this may get you into trouble, or even fired.
    - davnicwil 3y ago
      In fairness in such an extreme situation it seems likely there would be a conversation where you'd have the opportunity to explain. If there weren't, well, probably you're better off?
      - avgcorrection 3y ago
        > If there weren't, well, probably you're better off? That’s for the person to do something with or not. :) Not something that moderators should intervene in indirectly.
      - chongli 3y ago
        How do you explain if you're not aware of the policy?
    - carbotaniuman 3y ago
      There is no privacy invasion here (that isn't even the right argument). If you think that HN misrepresents the data then sure that's a valid concern, but it's not a privacy invasion. But really, the HN date is when it got exposed initially.
    - sfink 3y ago
      It does suggest that an "(updated)" marker would not go amiss. I won't explain my justification, since I'm supposed to be working right now. ;-)
    - skeaker 3y ago
      Fortunately the moderation here isn't a faceless monolith and if you email them they would most likely be happy to cooperate with your concerns about this.
    - willy_k 3y ago
      You’ve definitely described an invasion of privacy, just not one perpetrated by HN.
  - leeoniya 3y ago
    pretty sure it's because HN's position/rank algorithm is heavily weighted towards post age. so if it got upmodded but retained yesterday's timestamp it would not get much hang time. (speaking as someone with a few previous second-chance submissions)
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  - blackshaw 3y ago
    As dang explains in one of the linked posts, it's because if they don't do it, the discussion usually becomes "how is this on the front page when it's 2 days old?" instead of discussing the topic at hand. Of course in this case we're now discussing the opposite question and still not discussing the topic at hand.
scrlk 3y ago
dang explains the mechanics behind the second-chance pool here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 Regarding timestamp inconsistencies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19774614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19774614
- georgehill 3y ago
  Wow, this is super cool! Thanks!
- tommiegannert 3y ago
  I wonder what would happen to Reddit if moderators could order posts manually (other than stickies).

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bmacho 3y ago

Moderators often resubmit submissions with fake time. (I pretty much hate this. I don't like people lying things about me, like I was using HN at a time I wasn't. Be aware of this.)

lloydatkinson 3y ago
Why?
- enriquto 3y ago
  It's an invasion of privacy. Imagine that a post appears under your name with a date/time where you are supposed to be working. If you are paid by somebody else, this may get you into trouble, or even fired.
  - davnicwil 3y ago
    In fairness in such an extreme situation it seems likely there would be a conversation where you'd have the opportunity to explain. If there weren't, well, probably you're better off?
    - avgcorrection 3y ago
      > If there weren't, well, probably you're better off? That’s for the person to do something with or not. :) Not something that moderators should intervene in indirectly.
    - chongli 3y ago
      How do you explain if you're not aware of the policy?
  - carbotaniuman 3y ago
    There is no privacy invasion here (that isn't even the right argument). If you think that HN misrepresents the data then sure that's a valid concern, but it's not a privacy invasion. But really, the HN date is when it got exposed initially.
  - sfink 3y ago
    It does suggest that an "(updated)" marker would not go amiss. I won't explain my justification, since I'm supposed to be working right now. ;-)
  - skeaker 3y ago
    Fortunately the moderation here isn't a faceless monolith and if you email them they would most likely be happy to cooperate with your concerns about this.
  - willy_k 3y ago
    You’ve definitely described an invasion of privacy, just not one perpetrated by HN.
- leeoniya 3y ago
  pretty sure it's because HN's position/rank algorithm is heavily weighted towards post age. so if it got upmodded but retained yesterday's timestamp it would not get much hang time. (speaking as someone with a few previous second-chance submissions)
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- blackshaw 3y ago
  As dang explains in one of the linked posts, it's because if they don't do it, the discussion usually becomes "how is this on the front page when it's 2 days old?" instead of discussing the topic at hand. Of course in this case we're now discussing the opposite question and still not discussing the topic at hand.

scrlk 3y ago

dang explains the mechanics behind the second-chance pool here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 Regarding timestamp inconsistencies: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19774614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19774614

georgehill 3y ago
Wow, this is super cool! Thanks!
tommiegannert 3y ago
I wonder what would happen to Reddit if moderators could order posts manually (other than stickies).