> advanced math there is no place to hide flawed logical thinking If that's what you think, your math isn't advanced enough :P (disclosure: neither is mine) T

> advanced math there is no place to hide flawed logical thinking If that's what you think, your math isn't advanced enough :P (disclosure: neither is mine) These days mathematical proofs tend to be dozens of pages long and require multiple experts days to check and validate. I'm pretty sure programming fits your descriptions of nowhere to hide flawed thinking though. > To the extent algebra and calculus are not useful outside of STEM degrees or in “real life” is indeed what makes them useful since it allows them to remain essentially the only abstract thinking course high school students will be exposed to. Sure, but if "useless" things are desired, why don't we teach them comparative history of Hobbit society instead?