Well not really because figuring out any physical product economics is hard and hvac or whatever has bad margins. With software at least for me I can say give

Well not really because figuring out any physical product economics is hard and hvac or whatever has bad margins. With software at least for me I can say give me $100k/year and let me work for 2 years and I will have 80-90% of Atlassian jira. I don’t think anyone at this point in time can make dozen or so F500 companies to use what I did. But atlassian has them as customers.