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I want to believe in infinite growth too. Maybe asteroid mining could make this paper and model predictions way off. Indeed, that is the kind of thing we hear f

I want to believe in infinite growth too. Maybe asteroid mining could make this paper and model predictions way off. Indeed, that is the kind of thing we hear from Jeff Bezos: https://www.milkenreview.org/articles/mining-in-space-is-coming https://www.milkenreview.org/articles/mining-in-space-is-com... But also, yes, it IS reasonable to look at 4 sensitivity analyses comprising the most common rebuttals to limits of growth, observe alignment with more than 4 decades of empirical data, and believe based on that the model is pitching well above its weight. No need for ad hominem here.

snapplebobapple 3y ago
You don't have to believe in infinite growth, the problem with the model that makes the scary bit after the slopes change to down are all BS because of: "However, it is important to note that the connections in the model and the recalibration are only valid for the rising edge, as many of the variables and equations represented in the model are not physical but socio-economic. It is to be expected that the complex socio-economic relationships will be rearranged and reconnected in the event of a collapse. World3 holds the relationships between variables constant. Therefore it is not useful to draw further conclusions from the trajectory after the tipping points" That tells you this model disregards how every single societal crisis in the past was solved or at least mitigated: A massive change to the order of society (think germanic tribes conquering rome, magna carta type stuff, Napoleon et al taking France from a monarchy to an anarchy to an empire and, after calming down a bit, to a republic, etc. etc.).