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The why the course is useful to know may not actually ever be relevant to the students why they’re taking the class, and no amount of informing the student how

The why the course is useful to know may not actually ever be relevant to the students why they’re taking the class, and no amount of informing the student how it’s useful will assist them. Knowing firsthand the value of tax knowledge doesn’t mean I have any level of enthusiasm about my taxes… Btw, for your baking example: the great British bake off is a wildly popular show and yet almost none of the people I know who are fans care to even try to learn baking themselves. I just don’t think it’s a think that happens to any degree you think it does.

jstarfish 3y ago
> the great British bake off is a wildly popular show and yet almost none of the people I know who are fans care to even try to learn baking themselves. You're missing the point of teaching anything. Teaching is (literally) the act of grooming someone to be receptive to an idea. It's different from training, which is the act of coaching someone into doing something. When the day comes where one of those fans does try to bake something, everything they saw on the show is going to resonate in a way it wouldn't for someone without the exposure. I don't bake, but I now know two ways in which greasy meat leads to a soggy bottom.
- shortrounddev2 3y ago
  Most people go to college for training; they could not care less about receptivity to ideas. There is this myth that college is about expanding one's mind and worldview. It is not. It is about improving and ensuring one's economic class. Only professors forsake a job in the real world for these ideals. Everybody else is there to secure their spot in the middle class, and they don't care about superfluous information
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    > Most people go to college for training; they could not care less about receptivity to ideas And they come out of it disappointed that they don't actually know how to do anything. > There is this myth that college is about expanding one's mind and worldview. I used to think that was a myth too. So much so I did it twice. College is wasted on the young. It took decades of experience for me to recognize how much of my college experience consisted of being fed blatant lies meant to foster critical thought.
    - shortrounddev2 3y ago
      > And they come out of it disappointed that they don't actually know how to do anything. Mostly because, as the OP post points out, the lecturing model is very bad at teaching most things. College's never innovate

jstarfish 3y ago

> the great British bake off is a wildly popular show and yet almost none of the people I know who are fans care to even try to learn baking themselves. You're missing the point of teaching anything. Teaching is (literally) the act of grooming someone to be receptive to an idea. It's different from training, which is the act of coaching someone into doing something. When the day comes where one of those fans does try to bake something, everything they saw on the show is going to resonate in a way it wouldn't for someone without the exposure. I don't bake, but I now know two ways in which greasy meat leads to a soggy bottom.

shortrounddev2 3y ago
Most people go to college for training; they could not care less about receptivity to ideas. There is this myth that college is about expanding one's mind and worldview. It is not. It is about improving and ensuring one's economic class. Only professors forsake a job in the real world for these ideals. Everybody else is there to secure their spot in the middle class, and they don't care about superfluous information
- jstarfish 3y ago
  > Most people go to college for training; they could not care less about receptivity to ideas And they come out of it disappointed that they don't actually know how to do anything. > There is this myth that college is about expanding one's mind and worldview. I used to think that was a myth too. So much so I did it twice. College is wasted on the young. It took decades of experience for me to recognize how much of my college experience consisted of being fed blatant lies meant to foster critical thought.
  - shortrounddev2 3y ago
    > And they come out of it disappointed that they don't actually know how to do anything. Mostly because, as the OP post points out, the lecturing model is very bad at teaching most things. College's never innovate