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I know very little of your religion so I’m not familiar with many hymns at all but I thought this was interesting and so did a quick check. It seems many popul

I know very little of your religion so I’m not familiar with many hymns at all but I thought this was interesting and so did a quick check. It seems many popular hymns are still in copyright - not necessarily the melody, but often the lyrics, as often the popular English versions are translations, or new lyrics written to old songs. For example one of the most popular English language hymns “How Great Thou Art” has various versions of the lyrics, and popular versions appear to have been written by lyricists who did not die until the 1980s meaning these works will not become public domain until 2050 or later - even if the melody is much older. It may also be that the arrangement (which is a distinct copyright when it comes to music) is what is causing a copyright claim. I understand that religious music publishers can be quite persistent in ensuring use of their works is adequately compensated. This may be why you are unable to upload these. See also my comment below about differing lengths of copyright for works to enter the public domain.

chrismorgan 3y ago
Your suggested defence was already debunked in the linked thread. These were melody claims, all firmly in the public domain, most composers having died in the 1800s or earlier (e.g. Crimond, by J. S. Irvine who died in 1887).
- saaaaaam 3y ago
  Took a look, it’s a long thread! I don’t see a debunking as such apart from your own statement that they were flagged for melody. Apologies if I’ve missed something that is key to this. However I respectfully suggest that this is a misunderstanding of copyright and the content ID process. Content ID will flag the composition which includes melody and lyrics. This is because of the way music publishing has traditionally operated. So a flag for composition could be melody, lyrics, arrangement or any combination of those. As someone else pointed out (though this won’t be why are getting a content ID flag) there is actually a separate copyright in a performance - so even if you record a musical performance you would (technically) need the agreement of all the performers involved. This is common in film and TV where “release forms” are signed, as well professional record label recordings.

chrismorgan 3y ago

Your suggested defence was already debunked in the linked thread. These were melody claims, all firmly in the public domain, most composers having died in the 1800s or earlier (e.g. Crimond, by J. S. Irvine who died in 1887).

saaaaaam 3y ago
Took a look, it’s a long thread! I don’t see a debunking as such apart from your own statement that they were flagged for melody. Apologies if I’ve missed something that is key to this. However I respectfully suggest that this is a misunderstanding of copyright and the content ID process. Content ID will flag the composition which includes melody and lyrics. This is because of the way music publishing has traditionally operated. So a flag for composition could be melody, lyrics, arrangement or any combination of those. As someone else pointed out (though this won’t be why are getting a content ID flag) there is actually a separate copyright in a performance - so even if you record a musical performance you would (technically) need the agreement of all the performers involved. This is common in film and TV where “release forms” are signed, as well professional record label recordings.