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Parallel construction?
by NegativeLatency 3y ago
Parallel construction?
- jjtheblunt 3y agoWhat does that mean?
- wharvle 3y agoLearn something from illegal/inadmissible/secret source, use that info to find other evidence you can actually present in a public court, that you otherwise might not have found.
- cyberpunk 3y agoIf they request a warrant also, then they can actually use the results in a court process?
- temp0826 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree Illegally obtained evidence can't be used, so they must build the story using only legal means, which can be difficult and take longer or not possible at all sometimes.
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- nullc 3y agohaha That rule been so undermined in so many respects that is has little effect. When the government illegally spies on the public it goes in knowing that it has to cover for its actions. The evidence rules tend to only catch genuine errors where they failed to do the required parallel construction or set things up for the inevitable discovery doctrine because the unlawful search was inadvertent rather than intentional.
- tharkun__ 3y agoThey already know through either inadmissible means or outright illegal ones or they don't want you to know their capabilities. So now they go the official way. They already know exactly where to look and what to look for and what to ask for.
- tofof 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, and then passes it on to another officer, who builds on it and gets it accepted by the court under the good-faith exception as applied to the second officer. This practice gained support after the Supreme Court's 2009 Herring v. United States decision. See also the sibling about Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, the principle of law that Parallel Construction has rendered moot.
- jjtheblunt 3y agoMath nerd observation: reminds me of algebra equation solving encountering square root of -1, then naming it an introduced variable “i”, rather than being stuck, and moving on, in hopes “i” vanishes later in the set of equations being solved or simplified.
- jacobsenscott 3y agoStandard tinfoil hatter stuff - it is impossible to prove the government is not monitoring everything. From there you can build any theory - one being the government finds out you are doing something illegal, and then they go back and find legal ways to prove it. Has this happened - probably. Does it happen a lot - probably not. But none of that matters - the uncertainty is enough to build a whole online community that believes hard.
- llamaInSouth 3y agoit means that they are trying to hide being criminals... (the government)... look it up on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction AGAB All Governements Are Bastards