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Kudos to Croatia's tourism board or whoever ordered this article. It is nice place for digital nomads for sure. Belgrade is much bigger hub for example (Serbia

Kudos to Croatia's tourism board or whoever ordered this article. It is nice place for digital nomads for sure. Belgrade is much bigger hub for example (Serbia) and more of Ukrainians and Russians moved there to work, but overall this creates positive climate for Balkans as a whole... Not sure what is happening in Bosnia for example.

lstodd 3y ago
Nothing much in Bosnia, it's all either Serbia or Montenegro. Croatia is Schengen, so it's much more difficult to get there, and once you're in, there are better destinations.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  You mean it is much easier to get there.
  - lstodd 3y ago
    I mean it's much easier to get into Serbia, Montenegro or Bosnia than into Schengen == Croatia, Slovenia. But Serbia has people, and Montenegro has sea, while Bosnia has neither. So nothing much happens in Bosnia compared to other two. (edit: although it's somewhat cheaper and mountains are gorgeous)
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      That is relative to where you yourself are from.
      - lstodd 3y ago
        Well, idk who has problems. They never exactly liked exalted islamists, or anyone with a bad attitude here, but otherwise people are pretty laid back. Once I saw a guy from Turkie being given trouble at the airport, but that's about it. We shared a taxi after that. Basically no one gives a fuck so long as you don't cause any trouble. It's polako worldview you see. https://www.montenegro.travel/7-culture-keys-for-understanding-montenegro https://www.montenegro.travel/7-culture-keys-for-understandi...
input_sh 3y ago
Bosnia's too tiny and badly connected to be relevant. Sarajevo's definitely the leader, with smaller tech scenes in Mostar, Tuzla and Banja Luka, but it's almost all outsourcing. A fair amount of those outsourcing companies were founded by Bosnian migrants abroad, "investing back" into their homeland by (ab)using cheap local IT labour. I'd have trouble naming more than 5 local IT companies that actually have their own products on the market. For a drastic change to happen, loads of things would need to be improved: more datacenters, better interconnection (Sarajevo's just annoyingly difficult to reach from any direction), more than one decent IT college, Sarajevo's infrastructure is still lagging behind Zagreb's and Belgrade's (it was... a little more directly involved in the war, to put it mildly), and at least some sense of political stability on a national level. Marginal improvements can definitely be observed if you follow closely enough, but I'd say it'd take another decade of investments before it stops feeling like a major disadvantage in comparison to even its neighbouring capitals. Source: Bosnian, ~8 years in the IT sector in Sarajevo.

lstodd 3y ago

Nothing much in Bosnia, it's all either Serbia or Montenegro. Croatia is Schengen, so it's much more difficult to get there, and once you're in, there are better destinations.

jacquesm 3y ago
You mean it is much easier to get there.
- lstodd 3y ago
  I mean it's much easier to get into Serbia, Montenegro or Bosnia than into Schengen == Croatia, Slovenia. But Serbia has people, and Montenegro has sea, while Bosnia has neither. So nothing much happens in Bosnia compared to other two. (edit: although it's somewhat cheaper and mountains are gorgeous)
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    That is relative to where you yourself are from.
    - lstodd 3y ago
      Well, idk who has problems. They never exactly liked exalted islamists, or anyone with a bad attitude here, but otherwise people are pretty laid back. Once I saw a guy from Turkie being given trouble at the airport, but that's about it. We shared a taxi after that. Basically no one gives a fuck so long as you don't cause any trouble. It's polako worldview you see. https://www.montenegro.travel/7-culture-keys-for-understanding-montenegro https://www.montenegro.travel/7-culture-keys-for-understandi...

input_sh 3y ago

Bosnia's too tiny and badly connected to be relevant. Sarajevo's definitely the leader, with smaller tech scenes in Mostar, Tuzla and Banja Luka, but it's almost all outsourcing. A fair amount of those outsourcing companies were founded by Bosnian migrants abroad, "investing back" into their homeland by (ab)using cheap local IT labour. I'd have trouble naming more than 5 local IT companies that actually have their own products on the market. For a drastic change to happen, loads of things would need to be improved: more datacenters, better interconnection (Sarajevo's just annoyingly difficult to reach from any direction), more than one decent IT college, Sarajevo's infrastructure is still lagging behind Zagreb's and Belgrade's (it was... a little more directly involved in the war, to put it mildly), and at least some sense of political stability on a national level. Marginal improvements can definitely be observed if you follow closely enough, but I'd say it'd take another decade of investments before it stops feeling like a major disadvantage in comparison to even its neighbouring capitals. Source: Bosnian, ~8 years in the IT sector in Sarajevo.