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Oh, first of all, I truly respect this kind of teaching work. My only experience is in graduate or post-graduate level teaching. So really don't what is ideal i

Oh, first of all, I truly respect this kind of teaching work. My only experience is in graduate or post-graduate level teaching. So really don't what is ideal in your situation.

sethammons 3y ago
fwiw I've never heard of forced attendance post secondary; attendance is a legal requirement in k-12.
- nerdponx 3y ago
  Some classes have an attendance requirement, but usually that's set by the department or the individual instructor.
- Al-Khwarizmi 3y ago
  In Spain it became common after the last university reform, about 15 years ago. IMO it's counterproductive. If a student doesn't want to go to class and you force them, they probably won't be paying attention but just wasting time with social networks or whatever other distraction, and they can even distract those that want to attend. And I don't even feel morally justified to tell them to stop wasting time (as long as they're silent, at least) if they're forced to be there.
  - Levitz 3y ago
    You can force a student to be in class, you can't force them to care about class. Forced attendance would work if students cared for their education but their parents didn't. That's just not the case, even if students don't care because their parents don't, it just doesn't fix the problem.
  - jmrm 3y ago
    From experience, in the last 5-10 years most lecturers won't care if you go to classes or no. The will only require you to do continuous evaluation tasks.
    - jmrm 3y ago
      Edit: Change "won't" to "don't", and "The will" to "They"
- bee_rider 3y ago
  I’ve taken and assisted for classes that had “mandatory” attendance. In the sense that missing classes would come out of your grade. Sometimes it was implemented as a direct role-call. Some classes have a “participation” component which is really just a fuzzy attendance grade. Some classes have random graded in-class quizzes, which also function as a stochastic attendance check. Generally I hate all of these things IMO low attendance is the instructor’s last, most dramatic barometer to indicate poor instruction, and subverting this measurement is a terrible idea. But it is definitely different for k-12!

Oh, first of all, I truly respect this kind of teaching work. My only experience is in graduate or post-graduate level teaching. So really don't what is ideal in your situation.

sethammons 3y ago

fwiw I've never heard of forced attendance post secondary; attendance is a legal requirement in k-12.

nerdponx 3y ago
Some classes have an attendance requirement, but usually that's set by the department or the individual instructor.
Al-Khwarizmi 3y ago
In Spain it became common after the last university reform, about 15 years ago. IMO it's counterproductive. If a student doesn't want to go to class and you force them, they probably won't be paying attention but just wasting time with social networks or whatever other distraction, and they can even distract those that want to attend. And I don't even feel morally justified to tell them to stop wasting time (as long as they're silent, at least) if they're forced to be there.
- Levitz 3y ago
  You can force a student to be in class, you can't force them to care about class. Forced attendance would work if students cared for their education but their parents didn't. That's just not the case, even if students don't care because their parents don't, it just doesn't fix the problem.
- jmrm 3y ago
  From experience, in the last 5-10 years most lecturers won't care if you go to classes or no. The will only require you to do continuous evaluation tasks.
  - jmrm 3y ago
    Edit: Change "won't" to "don't", and "The will" to "They"
bee_rider 3y ago
I’ve taken and assisted for classes that had “mandatory” attendance. In the sense that missing classes would come out of your grade. Sometimes it was implemented as a direct role-call. Some classes have a “participation” component which is really just a fuzzy attendance grade. Some classes have random graded in-class quizzes, which also function as a stochastic attendance check. Generally I hate all of these things IMO low attendance is the instructor’s last, most dramatic barometer to indicate poor instruction, and subverting this measurement is a terrible idea. But it is definitely different for k-12!