> Yeah 9am is not early at all and way more into running late territory. I saw that on the east coast, which is partly why I moved away. In silicon valley my

> Yeah 9am is not early at all and way more into running late territory. I saw that on the east coast, which is partly why I moved away. In silicon valley my norm (for ~25 years) has been to start around 11am which is much more tolerable.