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> which later contributed to the modern concept of separation of church and state I call this "jumping to conclusions". And I find this idea quite uneducated i

> which later contributed to the modern concept of separation of church and state I call this "jumping to conclusions". And I find this idea quite uneducated in history, frankly. There's a time lapse of almost 1200 years between the fall of Rome and the formulation of separation of church and state. More to the point, prior to this concept there was the Reformation and the savage and brutal religious wars in Europe during 16th and 17th century. Separation of church and state came to solve a practical political problem: insane wars. Yes, there were wars in the Muslim world too. Even some religious ones (Shia vs. Sunis). But, unlike the Europeans, Muslins never cared to create a philosophical theory of the state (perhaps because Gutenberg wasn't Muslim).

shusaku 3y ago
> And I find this idea quite uneducated in history, frankly. He literally linked you to a lecture by a professor teaching his history course at Yale. Disagreeing is interesting, but “uneducated”?
defrost 3y ago
> And I find this idea quite uneducated in history, frankly. You can write a letter to: Paul Freedman, Chester D. Tripp Professor of History, Yale University. Freedman earned his BA at the University of California at Santa Cruz and an MLS from the School of Library and Information Studies at the University of California at Berkeley. He received a Ph.D. in History at Berkeley in 1978. His doctoral work focused on medieval Catalonia and how the bishop and canons interacted with the powerful and weak elements of lay society in Vic, north of Barcelona. This resulted in the publication of The Diocese of Vic: Tradition and Regeneration in Medieval Catalonia (1983). Freedman taught for eighteen years at Vanderbilt University before joining the Yale faculty in 1997. At Vanderbilt, he focused on the history of Catalan peasantry, papal correspondence with Catalonia and a comparative history of European seigneurial regimes. He was awarded Vanderbilt’s Nordhaus Teaching Prize in 1989 and was the Robert Penn Warren Humanities Center Fellow there in 1991-1992. During that time, he published his second book, Origins of Peasant Servitude in Medieval Catalonia (1991). Since coming to Yale, Professor Freedman has served as Director of Undergraduate Studies in History, Director of the Medieval Studies Program, Chair of the History Department, and Chair of the Program in the History of Science and Medicine He has offered graduate seminars on the social history of the Middle Ages, church, society and politics, and agrarian studies (as part of a team-taught course). https://history.yale.edu/people/paul-freedman https://history.yale.edu/people/paul-freedman You might disagree, of course, he appears to be educated in history .. and detailed aspects of christian church history for what it's worth.

shusaku 3y ago

> And I find this idea quite uneducated in history, frankly. He literally linked you to a lecture by a professor teaching his history course at Yale. Disagreeing is interesting, but “uneducated”?

defrost 3y ago

> And I find this idea quite uneducated in history, frankly. You can write a letter to: Paul Freedman, Chester D. Tripp Professor of History, Yale University. Freedman earned his BA at the University of California at Santa Cruz and an MLS from the School of Library and Information Studies at the University of California at Berkeley. He received a Ph.D. in History at Berkeley in 1978. His doctoral work focused on medieval Catalonia and how the bishop and canons interacted with the powerful and weak elements of lay society in Vic, north of Barcelona. This resulted in the publication of The Diocese of Vic: Tradition and Regeneration in Medieval Catalonia (1983). Freedman taught for eighteen years at Vanderbilt University before joining the Yale faculty in 1997. At Vanderbilt, he focused on the history of Catalan peasantry, papal correspondence with Catalonia and a comparative history of European seigneurial regimes. He was awarded Vanderbilt’s Nordhaus Teaching Prize in 1989 and was the Robert Penn Warren Humanities Center Fellow there in 1991-1992. During that time, he published his second book, Origins of Peasant Servitude in Medieval Catalonia (1991). Since coming to Yale, Professor Freedman has served as Director of Undergraduate Studies in History, Director of the Medieval Studies Program, Chair of the History Department, and Chair of the Program in the History of Science and Medicine He has offered graduate seminars on the social history of the Middle Ages, church, society and politics, and agrarian studies (as part of a team-taught course). https://history.yale.edu/people/paul-freedman https://history.yale.edu/people/paul-freedman You might disagree, of course, he appears to be educated in history .. and detailed aspects of christian church history for what it's worth.