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Born and raised in Vancouver, still have a house in BC. Living in Paraguay, life is much better and way more friendly. 100x less stupid. Honestly there’s a big

by _3u10 3y ago

Born and raised in Vancouver, still have a house in BC. Living in Paraguay, life is much better and way more friendly. 100x less stupid. Honestly there’s a bigger homeless problem in Vancouver than Buenos Aires, Rio, or even Asuncion. That said Canada is super beautiful but Argentina has Patagonia which is better than the Rockies at a tenth of the price. Most of North America is highly overrated currently. CDMX is really the only city I’d consider in NA.

YZF 3y ago
Doesn't Mexico City have a huge crime problem? What about health care? Poverty?
- _3u10 3y ago
  It has high crime areas which are generally not where you want to live. Most Latam cities are pretty good about keeping the criminals separate from the people. This is kind of what I meant by 100x less stupid than Vancouver. Brazil and Colombia are the exceptions, though the populace generally supports the idea of law and order so it at least has a hope. Healthcare in Paraguay is much better for day to day stuff than Canada and if you need more go to Argentina / Brazil / Europe.
- aprilthird2021 3y ago
  I was just in Mexico City a few months back. It's far safer and cleaner than NYC for example while still being just as cosmopolitan.
  - tempestn 3y ago
    Mexico City had a crime rate in 2022 of 46k crimes per 100k inhabitants. In New York City it was 2900.
    - tempestn 3y ago
      Found an interesting recent article on the murder rate too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/mexico-city-murder-rate-dropped-disappeared-number-rises https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/mexico-city-mu...
    - aprilthird2021 3y ago
      And a lot of cities have a higher crime rate than SF, but SF feels a lot worse when you go there. The difference is how effectively police can keep crime in certain areas and keep it from leaking into others. People enjoy and have better experiences in a city where the no-go areas are known and avoided than a place where the touristy areas ARE the no-go areas or where crime bleeds into major economic thrufares
atleastoptimal 3y ago
Is it only better because you're likely in the top 1% socioeconomically in Paraguay?
- _3u10 3y ago
  Nah my gfs family also thinks it’s stupid. She came to check Canada out and definitely does not want to live there. Lots of people go to school in US / Europe and come back. Paraguay is for people who want to work anyone who doesn’t usually goes to Argentina / Brazil or Spain to be on welfare. Edit: I posted too much so here’s my reply. She doesn’t like socialism, lack of rights, insane taxes, that women think she is oppressed because she has opinions that differ from theirs. Godlessness, and the hate for men / successful people. She does love the common law system tho, she says she could get a lot more people found not guilty if she could use common law. Reply: yeah, definitely right wing, she makes me blush sometimes.
  - atleastoptimal 3y ago
    Why specifically does she not want to live there? Paraguay is 105th in HDI and 104th in GDP per capita. 43% of Paraguayan families live in inadequate housing. Homicide rate is 3x Canada. What makes you consider the livability of Paraguay as so much better is likely because you are in the very top echelon of a socioeconomically poor country, as evidenced by the fact you still have a house in Canada. Edit: Ok, looking at your edit it just seems that she has hardcore right-wing beliefs and doesn't want to live in a left-wing country.
Kranar 3y ago
I just checked some stats and it looks like the poverty and homelessness in Buenos Aires is absolutely appalling, far worse than Vancouver. The issue with Vancouver's homelessness is that unlike in many other cities where poverty is kind of localized and shoved to the side... in Vancouver those living in poverty are in close contact with those who are well off and this creates a more in your face contrast and exposes the inequality front and centre. In Buenos Aires a third of the population lives in poverty and homelessness is so out of control that the airport is now a defacto homeless shelter. I also checked the stats on Rio and to say that homelessness or poverty is better in Rio compared to Vancouver is almost so insulting and out of touch I can't fathom how one can come to such a conclusion. I don't live in Vancouver, I've never been there, but to claim that a first world city that consistently ranks among the highest quality of life in the world is somehow experiencing homelessness or poverty on the level of a city that is absolutely riddled with crime, poverty, and homelessness just seems to invalidate anything you have to say on this topic. That said I'm glad you found a place you like in Paraguay and I agree that there are plenty of beautiful places in South America that make for a wonderful home.
- _3u10 3y ago
  Im in BA today and went to both airports and there wasn’t a problem. My friend / boxing coach lives in the favelas in Rio, he has a home. There’s no one sleeping on the streets / tent cities like in Vancouver. Even in Chacarita in Asuncion everyone has a home with a TV, a phone, and AC. Argentina has the same inequality rate as the US. Live here before you run stats, I thought the same thing about Paraguay too. I would read into quality of life measures, it has little to do with happiness. Paraguay is tied with Mexico, and Panama for #1 spot on the global emotions report.
  - Kranar 3y ago
    >My friend / boxing coach lives in the favelas in Rio, he has a home. There’s no one sleeping on the streets / tent cities like in Vancouver. Not surprised about there being fewer tent cities in Rio. From the news articles I've read, it looks like the police are very active in raiding them and dismantling them, using tear gas and riot based tactics. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-police-evict-hundreds-from-tent-city-near-rio-de-janeiro/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-police-evict-h... I was in Dubai and they have basically no homelessness, but you don't want to know how they accomplish it.
alephnerd 3y ago
> Living in Paraguay, life is much better and way more friendly lol wut? The life of the 1% is great in every country. > CDMX is really the only city I’d consider in NA CDMX ain't bad (and kudos for you actually recognizing it's North American), but QoL for the average person there is def worse than a similar city across the border. Schools, infra, pollution, and law-and-order for the lower half is absolutely worse in CDMX than cities in US+CAN, hence why most working and lower middle class people in MX tend to be the ones moving North.
- _3u10 3y ago
  1% is about 40K / year. No one making $40K wants to live in Canada rather than Latam. You won’t even have a maid, lol. People in PY sometimes go to work in the US for a gig, come back, buy a car. Largely people don’t want to live there, for the same reason they don’t want to live in Nicaragua. It’s just feminists and socialists who want to leave. They usually choose Argentina or Brazil.
moneywoes 3y ago
what would you recommend for a visit? unfortunately don’t have a good command of the spanish language

by _3u10 3y ago

YZF 3y ago

Doesn't Mexico City have a huge crime problem? What about health care? Poverty?

_3u10 3y ago
It has high crime areas which are generally not where you want to live. Most Latam cities are pretty good about keeping the criminals separate from the people. This is kind of what I meant by 100x less stupid than Vancouver. Brazil and Colombia are the exceptions, though the populace generally supports the idea of law and order so it at least has a hope. Healthcare in Paraguay is much better for day to day stuff than Canada and if you need more go to Argentina / Brazil / Europe.
aprilthird2021 3y ago
I was just in Mexico City a few months back. It's far safer and cleaner than NYC for example while still being just as cosmopolitan.
- tempestn 3y ago
  Mexico City had a crime rate in 2022 of 46k crimes per 100k inhabitants. In New York City it was 2900.
  - tempestn 3y ago
    Found an interesting recent article on the murder rate too: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/mexico-city-murder-rate-dropped-disappeared-number-rises https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/mexico-city-mu...
  - aprilthird2021 3y ago
    And a lot of cities have a higher crime rate than SF, but SF feels a lot worse when you go there. The difference is how effectively police can keep crime in certain areas and keep it from leaking into others. People enjoy and have better experiences in a city where the no-go areas are known and avoided than a place where the touristy areas ARE the no-go areas or where crime bleeds into major economic thrufares

atleastoptimal 3y ago

Is it only better because you're likely in the top 1% socioeconomically in Paraguay?

_3u10 3y ago
Nah my gfs family also thinks it’s stupid. She came to check Canada out and definitely does not want to live there. Lots of people go to school in US / Europe and come back. Paraguay is for people who want to work anyone who doesn’t usually goes to Argentina / Brazil or Spain to be on welfare. Edit: I posted too much so here’s my reply. She doesn’t like socialism, lack of rights, insane taxes, that women think she is oppressed because she has opinions that differ from theirs. Godlessness, and the hate for men / successful people. She does love the common law system tho, she says she could get a lot more people found not guilty if she could use common law. Reply: yeah, definitely right wing, she makes me blush sometimes.
- atleastoptimal 3y ago
  Why specifically does she not want to live there? Paraguay is 105th in HDI and 104th in GDP per capita. 43% of Paraguayan families live in inadequate housing. Homicide rate is 3x Canada. What makes you consider the livability of Paraguay as so much better is likely because you are in the very top echelon of a socioeconomically poor country, as evidenced by the fact you still have a house in Canada. Edit: Ok, looking at your edit it just seems that she has hardcore right-wing beliefs and doesn't want to live in a left-wing country.

Kranar 3y ago

I just checked some stats and it looks like the poverty and homelessness in Buenos Aires is absolutely appalling, far worse than Vancouver. The issue with Vancouver's homelessness is that unlike in many other cities where poverty is kind of localized and shoved to the side... in Vancouver those living in poverty are in close contact with those who are well off and this creates a more in your face contrast and exposes the inequality front and centre. In Buenos Aires a third of the population lives in poverty and homelessness is so out of control that the airport is now a defacto homeless shelter. I also checked the stats on Rio and to say that homelessness or poverty is better in Rio compared to Vancouver is almost so insulting and out of touch I can't fathom how one can come to such a conclusion. I don't live in Vancouver, I've never been there, but to claim that a first world city that consistently ranks among the highest quality of life in the world is somehow experiencing homelessness or poverty on the level of a city that is absolutely riddled with crime, poverty, and homelessness just seems to invalidate anything you have to say on this topic. That said I'm glad you found a place you like in Paraguay and I agree that there are plenty of beautiful places in South America that make for a wonderful home.

_3u10 3y ago
Im in BA today and went to both airports and there wasn’t a problem. My friend / boxing coach lives in the favelas in Rio, he has a home. There’s no one sleeping on the streets / tent cities like in Vancouver. Even in Chacarita in Asuncion everyone has a home with a TV, a phone, and AC. Argentina has the same inequality rate as the US. Live here before you run stats, I thought the same thing about Paraguay too. I would read into quality of life measures, it has little to do with happiness. Paraguay is tied with Mexico, and Panama for #1 spot on the global emotions report.
- Kranar 3y ago
  >My friend / boxing coach lives in the favelas in Rio, he has a home. There’s no one sleeping on the streets / tent cities like in Vancouver. Not surprised about there being fewer tent cities in Rio. From the news articles I've read, it looks like the police are very active in raiding them and dismantling them, using tear gas and riot based tactics. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-police-evict-hundreds-from-tent-city-near-rio-de-janeiro/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-police-evict-h... I was in Dubai and they have basically no homelessness, but you don't want to know how they accomplish it.

alephnerd 3y ago

> Living in Paraguay, life is much better and way more friendly lol wut? The life of the 1% is great in every country. > CDMX is really the only city I’d consider in NA CDMX ain't bad (and kudos for you actually recognizing it's North American), but QoL for the average person there is def worse than a similar city across the border. Schools, infra, pollution, and law-and-order for the lower half is absolutely worse in CDMX than cities in US+CAN, hence why most working and lower middle class people in MX tend to be the ones moving North.

_3u10 3y ago
1% is about 40K / year. No one making $40K wants to live in Canada rather than Latam. You won’t even have a maid, lol. People in PY sometimes go to work in the US for a gig, come back, buy a car. Largely people don’t want to live there, for the same reason they don’t want to live in Nicaragua. It’s just feminists and socialists who want to leave. They usually choose Argentina or Brazil.

moneywoes 3y ago

what would you recommend for a visit? unfortunately don’t have a good command of the spanish language