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>reverse immigration so… emigration?

by catgirlinspace 3y ago

dexwiz 3y ago
Maybe dimmigration? Unimmmigration?
- phantom784 3y ago
  They're still immigrants. They're moving to the US, not returning to their home country.
SonicScrub 3y ago
The term "reverse-immigration" is used by the article to highlight the number of people who emigrate after first immigrating. Which is certainly an interesting / concerning trend worthy of making note of. The choice of this terminology is deliberately chosen to make a distinction about this particular form of emigration
alephnerd 3y ago
Emigration means citizens of a country are leaving. In this case, it's immigrants to Canada who are deciding to leave, so reverse immigration is the correct word.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  Immigrant turnover
- defrost 3y ago
  From the article it's not entirely clear if there's an increased exodus of immigrants ie. people that came to Canada that are now leaving despite intending to stay. In the first six months of 2023 some 42,000 individuals departed Canada, adding to 93,818 people who left in 2022 and 85,927 exits in 2021, official data show. There are three (3) stories from immigrants who are leaving; one was a student who came to study, another a person retiring to asia (cheaper) after coming from there to earn in Canada. These are true stories but not the true stories of all of the ~84,000 people leaving Canada this year. The framing of this article (the immigrants are leaving!!) appears to rest on the gut feelings of the author and a handful of exit interviews that may very well not reflect the whole. It's also littered with weasel phrasing: "While the numbers are small now", and points out that most immigrants are staying ( 263,000 in past 12 months ) .. which has contracted the available housing hard, which has led to some immigrants not being able to find affordable housing. There's nothing that states or suggests the bulk of the 82K exits this years were once immigrants .. so "reverse immigration" to describe them all is suspect. There's no data that backs the notion that "turn arounds" (people that come to Canada for a number of years, then leave) have increased dramatically, just the stories that some of the departures are turn abouts (and there'll always be some).
  - soperj 3y ago
    > which has contracted the available housing hard, which has led to some immigrants not being able to find affordable housing. From what I've seen, more housing is available now than was available 12 months ago. Amazing what happens when prices are going down and investors aren't all vying for property.

>reverse immigration so… emigration?

dexwiz 3y ago

Maybe dimmigration? Unimmmigration?

phantom784 3y ago
They're still immigrants. They're moving to the US, not returning to their home country.

SonicScrub 3y ago

The term "reverse-immigration" is used by the article to highlight the number of people who emigrate after first immigrating. Which is certainly an interesting / concerning trend worthy of making note of. The choice of this terminology is deliberately chosen to make a distinction about this particular form of emigration

alephnerd 3y ago

Emigration means citizens of a country are leaving. In this case, it's immigrants to Canada who are deciding to leave, so reverse immigration is the correct word.

Apocryphon 3y ago
Immigrant turnover
defrost 3y ago
From the article it's not entirely clear if there's an increased exodus of immigrants ie. people that came to Canada that are now leaving despite intending to stay. In the first six months of 2023 some 42,000 individuals departed Canada, adding to 93,818 people who left in 2022 and 85,927 exits in 2021, official data show. There are three (3) stories from immigrants who are leaving; one was a student who came to study, another a person retiring to asia (cheaper) after coming from there to earn in Canada. These are true stories but not the true stories of all of the ~84,000 people leaving Canada this year. The framing of this article (the immigrants are leaving!!) appears to rest on the gut feelings of the author and a handful of exit interviews that may very well not reflect the whole. It's also littered with weasel phrasing: "While the numbers are small now", and points out that most immigrants are staying ( 263,000 in past 12 months ) .. which has contracted the available housing hard, which has led to some immigrants not being able to find affordable housing. There's nothing that states or suggests the bulk of the 82K exits this years were once immigrants .. so "reverse immigration" to describe them all is suspect. There's no data that backs the notion that "turn arounds" (people that come to Canada for a number of years, then leave) have increased dramatically, just the stories that some of the departures are turn abouts (and there'll always be some).
- soperj 3y ago
  > which has contracted the available housing hard, which has led to some immigrants not being able to find affordable housing. From what I've seen, more housing is available now than was available 12 months ago. Amazing what happens when prices are going down and investors aren't all vying for property.