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I've been finding it really odd how little coding chatGPT will do now. Earlier this year if I asked for a full set of code to solve a problem it would do the

I've been finding it really odd how little coding chatGPT will do now. Earlier this year if I asked for a full set of code to solve a problem it would do the entire css, code, whatever. Now it will offer the start and then suggest what needs to be written next. Yesterday it gave me a bunch of commented pseudocode after I asked for a specific set of functions. night and day in my opinion.

Tostino 3y ago
Completely agree, even guilting it into doing more of the coding isn't working well any more. I have absolutely noticed the difference. It was right around gpt4 turbo introduction.
gmerc 3y ago
It’s rooted in their new system prompt which heavily pushes to omitting information A custom user prompt screaming at it to not omit information seems to help somewhat but I suspect there’s a more expensive product in the pipe (we know MS is losing money on copilot)
- prepend 3y ago
  How is MS losing money on copilot? $100/year should be pretty lucrative.
  - gmerc 3y ago
    Inference costs more.
    - namaria 3y ago
      Oh no the thing that was supposed to replace programmers, and is made by programmers and has to run a ton of very expensive resources to achieve the level of a mediocre starter actually costs too much to replace programmers? But I thought we had an entropy reducing silver bullet on tap from the cloud!
      - schrodingerscow 3y ago
        What a ridiculous comment. $10 per month is like three orders of magnitude less than a developer. Clearly they could charge a lot more
        prepend 3y ago
        There are open source versions that use local compute and gpu. The price needs to get cheaper, not more expensive. Software is not about charging a percent of value derived. It’s based on minimal cost and providing more capability. Should IDEs cost $1000 because they save so much time?
        gmerc 3y ago
        As long as cost of Nvidia hardware the majority of the cost of AI, the cost of AI is entirely dependent on how much money Nvidia needs to extract to meet stock expectations. Everything else is a tiny factor when it comes to compute
BrandoElFollito 3y ago
I did not notice that. I only recently started using ChatGPT to bootstrap code and am in awe each time it spits out fully functional code. The iterative discussion works well too ("add a function to send a message to an MQTT broker" for instance)

Tostino 3y ago

Completely agree, even guilting it into doing more of the coding isn't working well any more. I have absolutely noticed the difference. It was right around gpt4 turbo introduction.

gmerc 3y ago

It’s rooted in their new system prompt which heavily pushes to omitting information A custom user prompt screaming at it to not omit information seems to help somewhat but I suspect there’s a more expensive product in the pipe (we know MS is losing money on copilot)

prepend 3y ago
How is MS losing money on copilot? $100/year should be pretty lucrative.
- gmerc 3y ago
  Inference costs more.
  - namaria 3y ago
    Oh no the thing that was supposed to replace programmers, and is made by programmers and has to run a ton of very expensive resources to achieve the level of a mediocre starter actually costs too much to replace programmers? But I thought we had an entropy reducing silver bullet on tap from the cloud!
    - schrodingerscow 3y ago
      What a ridiculous comment. $10 per month is like three orders of magnitude less than a developer. Clearly they could charge a lot more
      - prepend 3y ago
        There are open source versions that use local compute and gpu. The price needs to get cheaper, not more expensive. Software is not about charging a percent of value derived. It’s based on minimal cost and providing more capability. Should IDEs cost $1000 because they save so much time?
        gmerc 3y ago
        As long as cost of Nvidia hardware the majority of the cost of AI, the cost of AI is entirely dependent on how much money Nvidia needs to extract to meet stock expectations. Everything else is a tiny factor when it comes to compute

BrandoElFollito 3y ago

I did not notice that. I only recently started using ChatGPT to bootstrap code and am in awe each time it spits out fully functional code. The iterative discussion works well too ("add a function to send a message to an MQTT broker" for instance)