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Curious why this is a problem. Switch has the same issue, but none of the more old fashioned controllers I’ve ever owned have had this problem.

542458 3y ago
I can’t speak for controllers, but for wireless mice I’ve read that many issues are due to the very low voltages that they run at to extend battery life - the low voltage means that buttons + etc become much more susceptible to dirt and oxidization.
goosedragons 3y ago
Change of dead zone. Modern controllers have smaller dead zones and more accurate sticks. So when they start breaking down they pickup more phantom movements. Switch joycons are more likely because of the size of the stick (need less dead zone because size).
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- thomasfortes 3y ago
  Yeah, a PS2 controller has a graveyard at the center when compared to a PS5 or series controller, just grab a cheap USB controller from Amazon and use some tool to see the precision of modern controllers. That said, unless conventional sticks get way cheaper I'll stick to hall effect ones.
crawancon 3y ago
They all use the same hardware in the joysticks and have been for years (maybe since 90s). there must have been a defective version made along the way, but it's not an easy nor cost effective repair.
- phatskat 3y ago
  I would wager it comes down to more precise readings. You could theoretically use the same hardware for the stick itself but be getting much higher precision readings, which would mean that drift is much more apparent.
mherkender 3y ago
ALPS makes the hardware for the joysticks the major console companies use. They are cheap and work great -- except they have a really really short half-life. Even the Xbox Pro Controller (which is like $200) uses them which is crazy. I'm guessing it makes financial sense to keep using them so nothing changes. Hall effect joysticks are becoming more popular but they're usually harder to get ahold of and may not actually be that much better in the long run. Time will tell!
- pteraspidomorph 3y ago
  I wonder if they make the analog sticks on VR controllers too. Many have similar issues.

542458 3y ago

I can’t speak for controllers, but for wireless mice I’ve read that many issues are due to the very low voltages that they run at to extend battery life - the low voltage means that buttons + etc become much more susceptible to dirt and oxidization.

goosedragons 3y ago

Change of dead zone. Modern controllers have smaller dead zones and more accurate sticks. So when they start breaking down they pickup more phantom movements. Switch joycons are more likely because of the size of the stick (need less dead zone because size).

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thomasfortes 3y ago
Yeah, a PS2 controller has a graveyard at the center when compared to a PS5 or series controller, just grab a cheap USB controller from Amazon and use some tool to see the precision of modern controllers. That said, unless conventional sticks get way cheaper I'll stick to hall effect ones.

crawancon 3y ago

They all use the same hardware in the joysticks and have been for years (maybe since 90s). there must have been a defective version made along the way, but it's not an easy nor cost effective repair.

phatskat 3y ago
I would wager it comes down to more precise readings. You could theoretically use the same hardware for the stick itself but be getting much higher precision readings, which would mean that drift is much more apparent.

mherkender 3y ago

ALPS makes the hardware for the joysticks the major console companies use. They are cheap and work great -- except they have a really really short half-life. Even the Xbox Pro Controller (which is like $200) uses them which is crazy. I'm guessing it makes financial sense to keep using them so nothing changes. Hall effect joysticks are becoming more popular but they're usually harder to get ahold of and may not actually be that much better in the long run. Time will tell!

pteraspidomorph 3y ago
I wonder if they make the analog sticks on VR controllers too. Many have similar issues.