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great points. I'd even go as far as to say that an apache server on a SOC board that you can throw in a closet with some drives is enough. I am pretty happy pla

great points. I'd even go as far as to say that an apache server on a SOC board that you can throw in a closet with some drives is enough. I am pretty happy playing music through a browser, but i digress. Either way, there are tons of simple solutions. I don't want to bring out the psych again but i cant help it. I'd wager that until this point if you didn't or don't have your own physical collection its because of your personality makeup. Since these rug-pulls haven't been going on as often as they have in the last few years, if you've been happy being 'pragmatic' and taking what the services have to offer then you aren't as 'idealistic', otherwise refusing to compromise since you down 'own' a copy. Likewise if you're a 'big-picture' thinker you can't stand the chance that things become unavailable due to forces unseen, whereas if you 'think-small' then theres no real risk and we can take companies word at face value.

ndriscoll 3y ago
I wouldn't say streaming is more pragmatic; tracks regularly aren't available from well known artists (e.g. Pink Floyd or The Rolling Stones), and it's almost certainly cheaper in the medium term to buy discs, especially if you buy used. You can get CDs, DVDs, and even BDs for <$2 each from thrift stores or ebay. For $15/month, you can get ~90 CDs/year. Within 5 years, that's a sizable collection. Of course maximal pragmatism would just be to download it. People are plenty willing to share for free, so paying is a form of idealism.
- jofla_net 3y ago
  Thats not the equation people are using to weigh ownership vs subscribership. IF one has the time and knowledge to set up some kind of apparatus which most-tech oriented people in this thread consider trivial which replicates an always on, convenient, and available service to deposit said ripped files in and stream, then it is a little more fair of a comparison. But that initial barrier is not inconsequential. Average users see a hugely available, instantly installable, solution for a very small fee, in most western countries. In either case the argument isn't clear what traits are really responsible for the behavior, i cant say i have a solid case either. I'd also wager disagreeability to play a huge role.

ndriscoll 3y ago

I wouldn't say streaming is more pragmatic; tracks regularly aren't available from well known artists (e.g. Pink Floyd or The Rolling Stones), and it's almost certainly cheaper in the medium term to buy discs, especially if you buy used. You can get CDs, DVDs, and even BDs for <$2 each from thrift stores or ebay. For $15/month, you can get ~90 CDs/year. Within 5 years, that's a sizable collection. Of course maximal pragmatism would just be to download it. People are plenty willing to share for free, so paying is a form of idealism.

jofla_net 3y ago
Thats not the equation people are using to weigh ownership vs subscribership. IF one has the time and knowledge to set up some kind of apparatus which most-tech oriented people in this thread consider trivial which replicates an always on, convenient, and available service to deposit said ripped files in and stream, then it is a little more fair of a comparison. But that initial barrier is not inconsequential. Average users see a hugely available, instantly installable, solution for a very small fee, in most western countries. In either case the argument isn't clear what traits are really responsible for the behavior, i cant say i have a solid case either. I'd also wager disagreeability to play a huge role.