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>For the first month aka half of the entire study duration. As for "satisfaction" it didn't: diet satisfaction was reported lower in the vegan group. But while
by MostlyStable 3y ago
>For the first month
aka half of the entire study duration. As for "satisfaction" it didn't: diet satisfaction was reported lower in the vegan group. But while there may have been cheating, we know that the vegan group was consuming less calories, because they lost more weight. If they had been provided the same number of calories, that would tell us that they were cheating less or something similar. Because they were not though, we have no idea how much of it is due to some advantage of the diet vs. the difference in provided meals. The issue is not that this problem disproves advantages of a vegan diet. The problem is it makes it impossible to know. They have hopelessly confounded with a factor that we know is incredibly important in nutrition related health outcomes.
And the authors know it too:
>Fifth, our study was not designed to be isocaloric; thus, changes to LDL-C cannot be separated from weight loss observed in the study.
I personally think that this one throw away sentence is far too small for what is probably the largest methodological issue in the study.
Again, this problem doesn't disprove anything about vegan diets, it just makes it nearly impossible to learn anything from this study.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago> If they had been provided the same number of calories, that would tell us that they were cheating less or something similar. They were specifically told to snack as needed. Given that they were told to eat until satisfied, and report that they were less satisfied, it seems that this study "proves" that the vegan diets used in this study are less satisfying than omnivorous diets, at least on average for a cohort who aren't used to vegan eating.