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Funny, considering people said the same thing about OpenAI and look who is eating FAANGs lunch now when it comes to AI? I tried Bard yesterday (Im late like th

Funny, considering people said the same thing about OpenAI and look who is eating FAANGs lunch now when it comes to AI? I tried Bard yesterday (Im late like that) and I'm not switching back to a competitor anytime soon. The UX was smoother I found and i was blown away by the multimodal thing. It generated some python and the picture of a graph the python is supposed to draw, it was awesome experience. I told myself I trusted Google more and it integrates with their other apps so I could search my emails. I mean, they are clearly not f-ing around. They're going Iron-Mike on it rather. Which is the point of parent comment.

wenc 3y ago
The latest Bard is good, but at this time (Dec 2023), Bard is still not better than paid ChatGPT 4 in my experience. I use both daily (I use ChatGPT on my phone and at home, Bard at work because work doesn't allow ChatGPT). ChatGPT 4 still provides the highest quality answers to the range of questions I'm interested in. Bard's getting better with Gemini but it's still not good. Claude is great at summarizing PDFs and has one of the longest context windows, but the quality of answers it has to general questions is still lacking. Outside of summarization, I have little confidence in Claude's Q&A abilities. I've also been using Perplexity.ai and I would say it hits a sweet spot and is impressive. It's essentially a RAG-based search engine that's fast and snappy and it works much better than Bing or ChatGPT Bing. Because it's primarily RAG driven, the content is primarily external and you get links to original sources so you can verify the answer. This means the level of hallucination is lower than foundational models. It's become a practical tool for me. It's CoPilot feature, which asks clarifying questions about your query, has been helpful for finding new products. For instance, I was looking for luggage packing cubes that convert to hanging cubes. It's a known product class but I didn't know the lingo, but over a few clarifying iterations, it was able to help me find the right product.
- mrkramer 3y ago
  >I've also been using Perplexity.ai and I would say it hits a sweet spot and is impressive. It's essentially a RAG-based search engine that's fast and snappy and it works much better than Bing or ChatGPT Bing. Because it's primarily RAG driven, the content is primarily external and you get links to original sources so you can verify the answer. This means the level of hallucination is lower than foundational models. That is what worries me about the Google Bard; it rarely gives references to its answers so I'm not sure if I can trust it or not but you can double check the answer by Google Bard searching it on Google Search and then giving you the source and its textual reference.
  - wenc 3y ago
    Where do you find the references from Bard? There is the G button that you click after the answer appears which double-checks the result, but it only underlines parts of the answer that show it was or wasn't able to corroborate with search results. It doesn't seem to provide links to the relevant results themselves. Whereas wiht Perplexity, the links are part of the answer.
    - mrkramer 3y ago
      G Double check button only gives one reference(at least in my examples) but it seems like Bard does not give references by design[1][2]. Websites are kinda getting ripped off, because Google is not referencing them and giving them exposure and traffic. But Bard is still in the experimental phase so I hope that will change. [1] https://searchengineland.com/google-explains-why-bard-rarely-lists-citations-and-links-to-content-creators-394635 https://searchengineland.com/google-explains-why-bard-rarely... [2] https://www.seroundtable.com/google-bard-wont-link-to-sources-too-often-35097.html https://www.seroundtable.com/google-bard-wont-link-to-source...

wenc 3y ago

The latest Bard is good, but at this time (Dec 2023), Bard is still not better than paid ChatGPT 4 in my experience. I use both daily (I use ChatGPT on my phone and at home, Bard at work because work doesn't allow ChatGPT). ChatGPT 4 still provides the highest quality answers to the range of questions I'm interested in. Bard's getting better with Gemini but it's still not good. Claude is great at summarizing PDFs and has one of the longest context windows, but the quality of answers it has to general questions is still lacking. Outside of summarization, I have little confidence in Claude's Q&A abilities. I've also been using Perplexity.ai and I would say it hits a sweet spot and is impressive. It's essentially a RAG-based search engine that's fast and snappy and it works much better than Bing or ChatGPT Bing. Because it's primarily RAG driven, the content is primarily external and you get links to original sources so you can verify the answer. This means the level of hallucination is lower than foundational models. It's become a practical tool for me. It's CoPilot feature, which asks clarifying questions about your query, has been helpful for finding new products. For instance, I was looking for luggage packing cubes that convert to hanging cubes. It's a known product class but I didn't know the lingo, but over a few clarifying iterations, it was able to help me find the right product.

mrkramer 3y ago
>I've also been using Perplexity.ai and I would say it hits a sweet spot and is impressive. It's essentially a RAG-based search engine that's fast and snappy and it works much better than Bing or ChatGPT Bing. Because it's primarily RAG driven, the content is primarily external and you get links to original sources so you can verify the answer. This means the level of hallucination is lower than foundational models. That is what worries me about the Google Bard; it rarely gives references to its answers so I'm not sure if I can trust it or not but you can double check the answer by Google Bard searching it on Google Search and then giving you the source and its textual reference.
- wenc 3y ago
  Where do you find the references from Bard? There is the G button that you click after the answer appears which double-checks the result, but it only underlines parts of the answer that show it was or wasn't able to corroborate with search results. It doesn't seem to provide links to the relevant results themselves. Whereas wiht Perplexity, the links are part of the answer.
  - mrkramer 3y ago
    G Double check button only gives one reference(at least in my examples) but it seems like Bard does not give references by design[1][2]. Websites are kinda getting ripped off, because Google is not referencing them and giving them exposure and traffic. But Bard is still in the experimental phase so I hope that will change. [1] https://searchengineland.com/google-explains-why-bard-rarely-lists-citations-and-links-to-content-creators-394635 https://searchengineland.com/google-explains-why-bard-rarely... [2] https://www.seroundtable.com/google-bard-wont-link-to-sources-too-often-35097.html https://www.seroundtable.com/google-bard-wont-link-to-source...