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If you come to my restaurant isn't in my info that you walked in my door, sat at my table, ordered my food? Why do you think it's your info? When two interact b

by nox100 3y ago

If you come to my restaurant isn't in my info that you walked in my door, sat at my table, ordered my food? Why do you think it's your info? When two interact both sides get to remember the interaction.

simbolit 3y ago
The question is not if you can "remember" it. That is not what ownership in personal information is about. The question is whether you can __sell__ the information that I had three double cheese burgers and extra greasy fries to my health insurance provider.
- Manuel_D 3y ago
  You still own the information. You can retain a lot of all your restaurant visits and order history and sell that if you want to.
brookst 3y ago
The question is whether you own information about their food choices that you can sell to a third party without even telling the customer it was collected. On the one hand, it seems obvious that you have a right to observe, collect data, and sell it. On the other hand, ick.
- seanp2k2 3y ago
  Just ask TV and car manufacturers who collect telemetry about absolutely everything you do with their products and probably everything that happens on your connected phone and/or wifi network too.
  - zzo38computer 3y ago
    Such things would use up the customer's (electrical) power for the company's profit in ways that were not intended by the purchaser. That is in addition to spying, which it also is.
- SantalBlush 3y ago
  Yes, and it's "ick" because that's the actual definition of a spy [0]: > 1 : one that spies: a : one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy
  - cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
    “Ick”? “Actual definition”? I think we’ve got more intellectual integrity than this.
vimax 3y ago
But if I walk into a franchise restaurant with a camera recording, they'll kick me out while happily recording and selling data with their own cameras.

by nox100 3y ago

simbolit 3y ago

The question is not if you can "remember" it. That is not what ownership in personal information is about. The question is whether you can __sell__ the information that I had three double cheese burgers and extra greasy fries to my health insurance provider.

Manuel_D 3y ago
You still own the information. You can retain a lot of all your restaurant visits and order history and sell that if you want to.

brookst 3y ago

The question is whether you own information about their food choices that you can sell to a third party without even telling the customer it was collected. On the one hand, it seems obvious that you have a right to observe, collect data, and sell it. On the other hand, ick.

seanp2k2 3y ago
Just ask TV and car manufacturers who collect telemetry about absolutely everything you do with their products and probably everything that happens on your connected phone and/or wifi network too.
- zzo38computer 3y ago
  Such things would use up the customer's (electrical) power for the company's profit in ways that were not intended by the purchaser. That is in addition to spying, which it also is.
SantalBlush 3y ago
Yes, and it's "ick" because that's the actual definition of a spy [0]: > 1 : one that spies: a : one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
  “Ick”? “Actual definition”? I think we’ve got more intellectual integrity than this.

vimax 3y ago

But if I walk into a franchise restaurant with a camera recording, they'll kick me out while happily recording and selling data with their own cameras.