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People regularly walk in from the street just in time for that 10:30 standup. Then it's 11, then they get ready for the day, then it's lunch time. Then it's lu

People regularly walk in from the street just in time for that 10:30 standup. Then it's 11, then they get ready for the day, then it's lunch time. Then it's lunch coma. Then by 3PM they start gaining speed. By that time, I am already exhausted.

ako 3y ago
If I get in at 11 it usually means I’ve already done stuff at home, probably between 8 and 10. Getting in late doesn’t mean that they’re starting late.
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  It doesn't matter if you are working from home or from the office. If I am in the office before 9, many will not know how long I've been there. VP of engineering who is not on top of the commit activity only sees me there 10 to 5, but they see the dude staying late with them.
Liquix 3y ago
To be fair some people have naturally different "peak hours" and sleep schedules. I naturally fall asleep around 1-2AM and wake up at 10. Going to bed earlier involves tossing and turning for hours annoying the SO. Staying up for 36 hours to "reset" works for a couple nights before the schedule drifts back to its natural state. I practice sleep hygiene and have tried cutting out caffeine. Conversely, there's no amount of caffeine capable of facilitating deep work before 10:30-11AM, just end up frantically clicking around articles and wishing for sleep. Maybe these people aren't trying to game the optics, they just are naturally at their most productive from 11-7. IMHO it's awesome that your company allows that kind of flexibility (and that the morning startup is at 10:30!)
- jondwillis 3y ago
  Is “peak hours” a studied phenomenon? I have always assumed it is lifestyle habits and circadian rhythm/inertia. My experience with jet lag makes me think it is the latter.
  - stephendause 3y ago
    Yes. I highly recommend the book When by Daniel Pink: https://www.danpink.com/books/when/ https://www.danpink.com/books/when/
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  The racing mind. Welcome to my world. I assume you do not take medical Speed like Adderall? The thing that saved me were these $35 acupressure mats. 20-30 minutes and I am out. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acupressure+mat+spoonk https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acupressure+mat+spoonk
  - brianjking 3y ago
    Wait, how do you use this?
citrin_ru 3y ago
People are different. I’m not a morning person and struggling through the first half of the day. Right after a lunch is when my most productive hours start.

ako 3y ago

If I get in at 11 it usually means I’ve already done stuff at home, probably between 8 and 10. Getting in late doesn’t mean that they’re starting late.

renegade-otter 3y ago
It doesn't matter if you are working from home or from the office. If I am in the office before 9, many will not know how long I've been there. VP of engineering who is not on top of the commit activity only sees me there 10 to 5, but they see the dude staying late with them.

Liquix 3y ago

To be fair some people have naturally different "peak hours" and sleep schedules. I naturally fall asleep around 1-2AM and wake up at 10. Going to bed earlier involves tossing and turning for hours annoying the SO. Staying up for 36 hours to "reset" works for a couple nights before the schedule drifts back to its natural state. I practice sleep hygiene and have tried cutting out caffeine. Conversely, there's no amount of caffeine capable of facilitating deep work before 10:30-11AM, just end up frantically clicking around articles and wishing for sleep. Maybe these people aren't trying to game the optics, they just are naturally at their most productive from 11-7. IMHO it's awesome that your company allows that kind of flexibility (and that the morning startup is at 10:30!)

jondwillis 3y ago
Is “peak hours” a studied phenomenon? I have always assumed it is lifestyle habits and circadian rhythm/inertia. My experience with jet lag makes me think it is the latter.
- stephendause 3y ago
  Yes. I highly recommend the book When by Daniel Pink: https://www.danpink.com/books/when/ https://www.danpink.com/books/when/
renegade-otter 3y ago
The racing mind. Welcome to my world. I assume you do not take medical Speed like Adderall? The thing that saved me were these $35 acupressure mats. 20-30 minutes and I am out. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acupressure+mat+spoonk https://www.amazon.com/s?k=acupressure+mat+spoonk
- brianjking 3y ago
  Wait, how do you use this?

citrin_ru 3y ago

People are different. I’m not a morning person and struggling through the first half of the day. Right after a lunch is when my most productive hours start.