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> and then doing tech support for some redneck judge that owns more guns than electronic devices. This is an unnecessary dig. Not all "rednecks" are dumb. Th

by mulmen 3y ago

> and then doing tech support for some redneck judge that owns more guns than electronic devices. This is an unnecessary dig. Not all "rednecks" are dumb. They got us to the moon. Not all people who resist tech "innovation" in their space are "rednecks" or "dumb". They probably know a whole hell of a lot more about their domain than you do. Be cautious of the toxic sense of superiority tech people have that they somehow know better than the unwashed masses, even before immersing themselves in the domain to understand and then solve problems. Take delivery apps that have somehow made the previously thriving small business of delivering food a giant industry that loses money for everyone involved. Adding a tech doesn't automatically make things better. When people resist your shiny new (and likely ill conceived) tech that doesn't mean they are dumb. They might just recall the sting from last time.

bdzr 3y ago
> Take delivery apps that have somehow made the previously thriving small business of delivering food a giant industry that loses money for everyone involved. I agree with everything you said but this. It seems like an industry with sustainability problems where the consumers are winning big. It also seems like it ignores the small businesses that could never support delivery drivers in the first place. I'm not super familiar with this industry but I hear similar arguments against ride sharing which is at worst 10x better on the consumer side than it was before.
- Moru 3y ago
  The problem with the big tech trying to fix problem in one country can turn out destroying something that actually works better in some other country. Here in Sweden we have had something called e-invoices for a very long time. You just ordered something and the invoice ended up automatically on your bank. Just a few clicks to pay all your invoices no matter how many. Now there are several different payment apps that wants to fight for the customers and they all require you to get their app. Or you will have to jump through five hoops to get to pay the invoice. It's called rentseeking I believe...
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eqvinox 3y ago
> Not all "rednecks" are dumb. I didn't call anyone dumb. Why did you jump to that? If I translate "redneck" to my native language, the result is roughly "someone who lives away from civilization", "lacking higher education", "anti-progressive and behind the times". Those are exactly what I was aiming for, as that's the kind of person that will (by definition, essentially) have the most & worst IT support issues. (Also—what's your definition of "redneck" when you say "rednecks got us to the moon"? By my understanding, at the point you start working on the space program you're not a "redneck" anymore…)
- mulmen 3y ago
  You clearly meant redneck in a derogatory way. Your response clarifies that. It's not really necessary to use prejudice to make your point. This is an opportunity to examine your own bias.

by mulmen 3y ago

bdzr 3y ago

> Take delivery apps that have somehow made the previously thriving small business of delivering food a giant industry that loses money for everyone involved. I agree with everything you said but this. It seems like an industry with sustainability problems where the consumers are winning big. It also seems like it ignores the small businesses that could never support delivery drivers in the first place. I'm not super familiar with this industry but I hear similar arguments against ride sharing which is at worst 10x better on the consumer side than it was before.

Moru 3y ago
The problem with the big tech trying to fix problem in one country can turn out destroying something that actually works better in some other country. Here in Sweden we have had something called e-invoices for a very long time. You just ordered something and the invoice ended up automatically on your bank. Just a few clicks to pay all your invoices no matter how many. Now there are several different payment apps that wants to fight for the customers and they all require you to get their app. Or you will have to jump through five hoops to get to pay the invoice. It's called rentseeking I believe...
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eqvinox 3y ago

> Not all "rednecks" are dumb. I didn't call anyone dumb. Why did you jump to that? If I translate "redneck" to my native language, the result is roughly "someone who lives away from civilization", "lacking higher education", "anti-progressive and behind the times". Those are exactly what I was aiming for, as that's the kind of person that will (by definition, essentially) have the most & worst IT support issues. (Also—what's your definition of "redneck" when you say "rednecks got us to the moon"? By my understanding, at the point you start working on the space program you're not a "redneck" anymore…)

mulmen 3y ago
You clearly meant redneck in a derogatory way. Your response clarifies that. It's not really necessary to use prejudice to make your point. This is an opportunity to examine your own bias.