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If I buy a book, I can read it as many times as I want, lend it to other people or even burn it in a fireplace if I want to. Why shouldn’t these rights extend t

by xigoi 3y ago

If I buy a book, I can read it as many times as I want, lend it to other people or even burn it in a fireplace if I want to. Why shouldn’t these rights extend to digital media?

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mrtksn 3y ago
I think it should. Go ahead and implement it, then get content producers distribute their work in your framework. Good luck.
- epups 3y ago
  It sounds to me like you are trying to say that because technology exists to enforce oppressive stances against basic consumer rights we all had just a few years ago, we should also not make use of technology that exists to circumvent this attack. Is your argument solely based on "it is, therefore it should be", or is there more to it?
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    I think you are misrepresenting the situation and misreading what I said. What I say is, if you don't like how Oppenheimer was funded, produced and then how they tried to collect money from you when you wanted to see it then you should fund and produce your own movie and distribute it the way you see fit. Upload it to YouTube, share a magnet link - whatever. Nothing stops you from not participating in the DRM stuff.
    - stockmarketer 3y ago
      Or... he could keep on with his life and just pirate whatever he feels like? I swear, the messiah complex in you guys.
    - Capricorn2481 3y ago
      Where does this logic end? If you don't like what the government is doing, start your own? There is a huge imbalance between corporation and consumer where decades of generational wealth allows a film like Oppenheimer to be made. It's completely ridiculous to tell people struggling to pay their rent that they should just make their own blockbuster film if they don't want to be dirty thieves. Content distribution has gotten worse overtime to the benefit of nobody but the richest people.
tsimionescu 3y ago
A book carries the same licensing terms as a DVD and as most digital media. However, the implementation of some of these terms is much easier or harder depending on the actual medium. It's easy to lend a book, it's hard to achieve the same thing with digital media. But in the EU at least, if a platform supports a way for a user to transfer their ability to a different user, then re-selling or lending through this mechanism is legal. The real abuse from digital media sales is the seller maintaing the right to revoke access to the work arbitrarily.

by xigoi 3y ago

If I buy a book, I can read it as many times as I want, lend it to other people or even burn it in a fireplace if I want to. Why shouldn’t these rights extend to digital media?

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mrtksn 3y ago

I think it should. Go ahead and implement it, then get content producers distribute their work in your framework. Good luck.

epups 3y ago
It sounds to me like you are trying to say that because technology exists to enforce oppressive stances against basic consumer rights we all had just a few years ago, we should also not make use of technology that exists to circumvent this attack. Is your argument solely based on "it is, therefore it should be", or is there more to it?
- mrtksn 3y ago
  I think you are misrepresenting the situation and misreading what I said. What I say is, if you don't like how Oppenheimer was funded, produced and then how they tried to collect money from you when you wanted to see it then you should fund and produce your own movie and distribute it the way you see fit. Upload it to YouTube, share a magnet link - whatever. Nothing stops you from not participating in the DRM stuff.
  - stockmarketer 3y ago
    Or... he could keep on with his life and just pirate whatever he feels like? I swear, the messiah complex in you guys.
  - Capricorn2481 3y ago
    Where does this logic end? If you don't like what the government is doing, start your own? There is a huge imbalance between corporation and consumer where decades of generational wealth allows a film like Oppenheimer to be made. It's completely ridiculous to tell people struggling to pay their rent that they should just make their own blockbuster film if they don't want to be dirty thieves. Content distribution has gotten worse overtime to the benefit of nobody but the richest people.

tsimionescu 3y ago

A book carries the same licensing terms as a DVD and as most digital media. However, the implementation of some of these terms is much easier or harder depending on the actual medium. It's easy to lend a book, it's hard to achieve the same thing with digital media. But in the EU at least, if a platform supports a way for a user to transfer their ability to a different user, then re-selling or lending through this mechanism is legal. The real abuse from digital media sales is the seller maintaing the right to revoke access to the work arbitrarily.