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Why do you think that? Germany didn't even protest when it was revealed that the USA spied on the phone of chancellor Merkel, the BND sent siphoned german inter

by onli 3y ago

Why do you think that? Germany didn't even protest when it was revealed that the USA spied on the phone of chancellor Merkel, the BND sent siphoned german internet traffic to the NSA in an act of treason, and flight passenger data is sent to the USA without receiving such data in return. And again and again the EU enables data transfer programs into the USA, even though it is known the USA does not protect that data from access and that thus all such agreements are illegal. In such questions, European states repeatedly bow completely to the USA. I don't see why it would be different with Spain.

cheese_van 3y ago
How do you mean protest? Do you mean people in the streets? No, that didn't happen. Do you mean inter-governmental protest in the form of summoning an ambassador and dressing them down? In the form of sternly worded demarches asking for clarification? In diplomatic discussions that frankly announced our relationship was injured? Yes that very much happened. A relationship was impaired and Germany was quite diplomatically clear about it. Diplomatic protest does not need to be public to be effective.
- onli 3y ago
  You are correct. I indeed remembered that not even the ambassador was summoned, but according to https://www.dw.com/de/nsa-sp%C3%A4hangriff-us-botschafter-einbestellt/a-17180796 https://www.dw.com/de/nsa-sp%C3%A4hangriff-us-botschafter-ei... at least that did happen.
hash872 3y ago
Countries spy on each other constantly, it's just that articles about the US doing so receive far more clicks. Europe does a similar amount of spying on the US, here's a couple articles where it's revealed or they admit it: France admits they spied on the US: (https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squarcini-dcri-hollande-ayrault-merkel-usa-obama https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squar...) Germany was found to be spying on the US: (https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-house/a-39365418 https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-hou...)

by onli 3y ago

cheese_van 3y ago

How do you mean protest? Do you mean people in the streets? No, that didn't happen. Do you mean inter-governmental protest in the form of summoning an ambassador and dressing them down? In the form of sternly worded demarches asking for clarification? In diplomatic discussions that frankly announced our relationship was injured? Yes that very much happened. A relationship was impaired and Germany was quite diplomatically clear about it. Diplomatic protest does not need to be public to be effective.

onli 3y ago
You are correct. I indeed remembered that not even the ambassador was summoned, but according to https://www.dw.com/de/nsa-sp%C3%A4hangriff-us-botschafter-einbestellt/a-17180796 https://www.dw.com/de/nsa-sp%C3%A4hangriff-us-botschafter-ei... at least that did happen.

hash872 3y ago

Countries spy on each other constantly, it's just that articles about the US doing so receive far more clicks. Europe does a similar amount of spying on the US, here's a couple articles where it's revealed or they admit it: France admits they spied on the US: (https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squarcini-dcri-hollande-ayrault-merkel-usa-obama https://www.france24.com/en/20131024-nsa-france-spying-squar...) Germany was found to be spying on the US: (https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-house/a-39365418 https://www.dw.com/en/german-intelligence-spied-on-white-hou...)