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By agreeing that some amount is acceptable, you've conceded the principle. As the famous saying goes, we’re just haggling over the price. As for whether 3% is
by simondotau 3y ago
By agreeing that some amount is acceptable, you've conceded the principle. As the famous saying goes, we’re just haggling over the price.
As for whether 3% is reasonable, again we can look to Epic for evidence. Epic's own Steam competitor takes a 12% cut — and they admitted in court that it was a money-losing venture. That should stop and make you think. The Epic Games Store isn't even a complex ecosystem, it's just a glorified Windows app downloader and even then they couldn't make a profit at 12%.
Apple argues that their 15% fee for most (30% for the ultra-successful) pays for a lot more than just payment services. It pays for absorbing the cost of fraud. It pays for dealing with refunds. It pays for developing the APIs. It pays for employing an enormous team to perform some imperfect-but-useful oversight over the 1,800,000 apps in their store. It pays for a lot of things.
If you think Apple makes too much money, fine. That's a perfectly fine argument to make. That's a very different one to claiming that they're not entitled to make money. Or that the government should dictate prices at them.
- jocaal 3y agoBut we are not haggling over the price. apple has control over an enormous portion of the market. I can't haggle because the big guy controls everything. And saying apples cut pays for more services is just hilarious. we are forced to use those services and forced to pay for them. Stripe does refunds and fraud detection. There are other app development platforms for API's like kotlin and flutter. And you and I both know that apple's margins on the app store is a joke. Thats why they dont report it seperatly in their financials. Whether epic couldnt make it is their problem.
- simondotau 3y ago> But we are not haggling over the price. You argue that a 5% cut is reasonable and a 15% cut is not reasonable. You are haggling over the price.
- kaibee 3y agoEGS only loses money because they have to buy their customers by giving away free games, to try to dislodge Steam's position. The infrastructure costs of EGS cannot be that high.
- simondotau 3y agoApple spends billions of dollars to get customers too.