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> If Israel could remove Hamas without injuring any non-combatants I think they would. Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems d

> If Israel could remove Hamas without injuring any non-combatants I think they would. Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems designed to strengthen Hamas, just as Israel has been supporting Hamas since their formation. The existence of Hamas prevents a united Palestinian people while simultaneously giving Israel the excuse to reject a 2-state solution. If Hamas didn't exist, Israel would have to create a Hamas from scratch.

mupuff1234 3y ago
You seem to ignore the fact that Palestinians have rejected a 2-state solution and have elected hamas themselves.
- ConorSheehan1 3y ago
  You seem to ignore the fact that hamas was elected in 2006 and has indefinitely postponed elections since then. Given the demographics most Palestinians weren't even alive when hamas was elected.
  - mupuff1234 3y ago
    That doesn't change the fact that it was elected in the first place, showing that at the time Gaza was not interested in peace. My point is that Palestinians have their share of blame.
- Arn_Thor 3y ago
  Remind me, when was the last time people in Gaza were given a chance to vote?
  - mupuff1234 3y ago
    Don't see why that changes what I said. Parent comment blamed everything on israel when clearly Palestinians have a fair share of blame - you can't deny that.
- VBprogrammer 3y ago
  In a democratic election held before around half it's current population was born. Not that the results would likely be much different today.
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edanm 3y ago
> Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems designed to strengthen Hamas, just as Israel has been supporting Hamas since their formation. This attack is supposed to remove Hamas by killing them, or forcing them to surrender. There's a lot of legit criticism of what Israel is doing, but if you think it's designed to bolster Hamas, then you're really misunderstanding what's happening.
- markdown 3y ago
  That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. How do you kill a political movement? After all this slaughter, there'll be thousands more terrorists willing to fight the occupying force that's killed their parents and children.
  - edanm 3y ago
    Hamas isn't just a political movement. It's an organization with a group of members, with weapons caches, with plans, etc. They have people trained to invade Israel and kill civilians, have proven that they can do this, and have promised to do it again. They can be stopped by arresting/killing the members. Why wouldn't it be possible? Similar groups have been stopped.

mupuff1234 3y ago

You seem to ignore the fact that Palestinians have rejected a 2-state solution and have elected hamas themselves.

ConorSheehan1 3y ago
You seem to ignore the fact that hamas was elected in 2006 and has indefinitely postponed elections since then. Given the demographics most Palestinians weren't even alive when hamas was elected.
- mupuff1234 3y ago
  That doesn't change the fact that it was elected in the first place, showing that at the time Gaza was not interested in peace. My point is that Palestinians have their share of blame.
Arn_Thor 3y ago
Remind me, when was the last time people in Gaza were given a chance to vote?
- mupuff1234 3y ago
  Don't see why that changes what I said. Parent comment blamed everything on israel when clearly Palestinians have a fair share of blame - you can't deny that.
VBprogrammer 3y ago
In a democratic election held before around half it's current population was born. Not that the results would likely be much different today.
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edanm 3y ago

> Surely you jest. How is this attack supposed to remove Hamas? It seems designed to strengthen Hamas, just as Israel has been supporting Hamas since their formation. This attack is supposed to remove Hamas by killing them, or forcing them to surrender. There's a lot of legit criticism of what Israel is doing, but if you think it's designed to bolster Hamas, then you're really misunderstanding what's happening.

markdown 3y ago
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. How do you kill a political movement? After all this slaughter, there'll be thousands more terrorists willing to fight the occupying force that's killed their parents and children.
- edanm 3y ago
  Hamas isn't just a political movement. It's an organization with a group of members, with weapons caches, with plans, etc. They have people trained to invade Israel and kill civilians, have proven that they can do this, and have promised to do it again. They can be stopped by arresting/killing the members. Why wouldn't it be possible? Similar groups have been stopped.