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In my experience, incoming SMS are mostly spam, and other low trust notifications, while incoming iMessages, even if unknown to me, are likely to be real people
by skygazer 3y ago
In my experience, incoming SMS are mostly spam, and other low trust notifications, while incoming iMessages, even if unknown to me, are likely to be real people. Buying an Apple device is an expensive signal, and Apple will quickly shut down abusers, maintaining that relatively high bar.
Letting (actual) Android users use iMessage probably wouldn’t affect that, but the open source hack/reversing of it opened the door to iMessage spam that Apple, for the sake of reputation, and customer satisfaction, is obliged to close.
Anyway, I guess my point is that there are some “burdens” that are less obvious than others.
- vachina 3y agoHuh, I used to receive spam on iMessage with blue bubbles. In fact the only blue bubbles I receive are spam.
- Analemma_ 3y ago[flagged]
- rezonant 3y agoThe GP is using a euphemism popular in the US. Indeed, the sent messages are colored not the received ones, but the euphemism labels the cause of the color, not the person receiving the text. If you are not from the US I'm sure this is weird.
- rafabulsing 3y agoWait, what? Android user here so I might just be confused, but my impression always was that it's the received messages that are different, hence the whole blue/green bubble debacle, and Android users being bullied for having green bubble texts.
- rezonant 3y agoSee my sibling comment for an explanation.
- Pulcinella 3y agoReceived messages are always grey. It's sent messgaes that change colors. So a message from an Android, iPhone, windows phone, feature phone, etc. will always appear with a grey bubble. A sent imessage message to an iPhone user will be blue. A sent SMS text message to a iphone, android phone, feature phone, etc. will be in a green bubble.
- vachina 3y agoI’m not lying. Also not sure why I’m downvoted. I occasionally receive spam messages from iMessage users, not conventional SMS. I do not know how these spammers manage to send them, but the senders are always identified with an email in the app, that’s how I could tell it apart from conventional SMS.
- skygazer 3y agoI guess (based on the skeptical reactions) your experience is atypical now-a-days, but based on your comment, I did find a 2014 wired article saying that while previously unheard of, iMessage now [then] accounted for 30% of spam, from email addresses like you described. I had no idea. Somehow I avoided that. I didn’t find anything more recent, though, so maybe it’s less of a problem now? https://www.wired.com/2014/08/apples-imessage-is-being-taken-over-by-spammers/ https://www.wired.com/2014/08/apples-imessage-is-being-taken... I do know first hand that Apple will turn off (starting at several days) an Apple user’s ability to use iMessage if they get even several reports, though.
- meindnoch 3y ago[flagged]
- rezonant 3y agoThis isn't a useful comment, you're just assuming your experience is valid and others who disagree aren't, and using it to sling accusations of dishonesty. If spam is really the problem Apple is worried about, then isn't it conceivable that it happens and that Apple has to work to keep spam low so you have a good experience? Such work is ongoing and sometimes spam gets through anyway. I don't think we should assume Apple's protections on occasional spam are perfect.
- inquirerGeneral 3y ago[dead]
- empyrrhicist 3y agoWho is talking about SMS? Not I.
- skygazer 3y agoI mention SMS as a natural contrast to iMessage and to illustrate the annoyances which may burden iMessage if opened up blindly to any bot — a different variety of burdensome.
- skygazer 3y agoApple's statement: "At Apple, we build our products and services with industry-leading privacy and security technologies designed to give users control of their data and keep personal information safe. We took steps to protect our users by blocking techniques that exploit fake credentials in order to gain access to iMessage. These techniques posed significant risks to user security and privacy, including the potential for metadata exposure and enabling unwanted messages, spam, and phishing attacks. We will continue to make updates in the future to protect our users."