My points are narrowly related to the parent's assertion that Apple preventing Beeper Mini interoperability / allowing SMS is evidence of their convictions rela

My points are narrowly related to the parent's assertion that Apple preventing Beeper Mini interoperability / allowing SMS is evidence of their convictions relating to privacy being hokum, but since you're not one of those 3 month old accounts I see making specious arguments… > Last time I checked, Apple still used security questions any hacker can get answers to on Facebook. Apple's default for a number of years has been to use trusted devices IIRC. Their kb article on resetting a forgotten Apple ID password even suggests that it's better to wait until you're back with a trusted device than to immediately try to reset without one, suggesting that the process is somewhat intensive and perhaps subject to human review? I just kicked it off online and the first question _is_ to confirm an obfuscated cell phone number, but I can't imagine that after that it's mother's maiden name dreck? > Apple has the ability to control security issues on Android: they can release an Android app, like every other E2EE messenger out there. Which would thus expose them to security weaknesses of a device and OS they do not control, and potentially expose iPhone and iOS customers to increased risk should an Android iMessage user's phone have malware, or screen scraping, or keylogging, etc. > Apple chooses not to, and it's their choice, of course. It doesn't care about the privacy of it's non-users, and it doesn't care about the privacy of its users when they communicate with non-users. From what I can tell, it only cares if you stay within the Apple bubble. Nail on the head, but I do think that folks overstate the simplicity with which Apple could provide a comparably secure iMessage experience on Android.