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An android user in an otherwise iMessage only group chat tends to mess things up. Those Apple users tend to get frustrated by it and group chat exclusion is a r
by haswell 3y ago
An android user in an otherwise iMessage only group chat tends to mess things up. Those Apple users tend to get frustrated by it and group chat exclusion is a real thing.
It’s less about a specific feature set and more about inclusion and acceptance from/by peers.
This is especially prevalent among the younger crowd. Think high school group dynamics playing out with phones.
And then on top of that, photos/videos are terrible quality.
- cycomanic 3y agoI realised this the other day, a friend send me a video via mms (I'm on android) and the quality was super poor (like 90s gif like quality). I though she must have some issue with her camera or so, no next time I saw her we looked at her phone (which is an iPhone), perfectly fine video. It's just apple degrading the performance for who is not on an iPhone. I mean just imagine they'd degrade sound to nearly noise if you'd call a non-iPhone.
- meepmorp 3y ago> It's just apple degrading the performance for who is not on an iPhone. The reason the video looks like ass is because MMS messages aren't meant to be very large. While (iirc) there isn't a hard limit, the recommended maximum message size is ~600KB. The only way to fit a video into that range is to compress the hell out of it.
- hu3 3y agoThat's the technical reason. Apple knows of such limitations and does nothing to improve the situation. In fact they ban those who try. FTA.
- haswell 3y agoApple announced RCS support in 2024, so they’re doing more than nothing. Don’t think we know yet how fully they’ll support it though.
- meepmorp 3y ago> Apple knows of such limitations and does nothing to improve the situation. Why would they? It's not their problem, nor does it seem to be a big deal for their customers because they're not clamoring for a fix. > In fact they ban those who try. FTA. They don't, thiugh. The App Store has tons of photo and video sharing services, email, and other messaging services; I'm sure any number of them would let your iPhone-using friends and family easily send you a non-mangled videos. This is a solved, dozens of times over. iMessage, on the other hand, is a service Apple provides for Apple customers. They get to set the terms under which it's used, and Beeper did not abide by those terms.
- prmoustache 3y agoAre these iMessage group chat really a thing? In my part of the world Whatsapp is the defacto standard for group chat and even for things like scheduling anpointment to a doctor/dentist/hairdresser. And that is because it is available on android, apple devices and even those cheap kaios halfsmartphones.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago> Are these iMessage group chat really a thing? For some, but everyone knows and has the capacity to download WhatsApp. The root issue is there is a lot of judgment about Android users, hence wanting to restrict chats to iMessage. It’s a signal that you are part of the in group vs out group. Although, it is objectively convenient to have a group of all iMessage users at events, because any pics/video get shared at high quality with no extra work.
- adaptbrian 3y agoWalled garden development practices sold under the guise of privacy and security. It's a very tired and old playbook that has real societal damage. So. Tired. Of. It.
- networkchad 3y ago[dead]
- sneak 3y agoThere’s a reason why robocalls and spam emails and spam paper mail are a nearly universal thing and iMessage spam is not.
- prmoustache 3y agoIronically in the initial beep announcement some people mentionned in the comments that imessage spam was already a thing.
- wbobeirne 3y ago