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There are about 1.8 Billion Muslims on planet earth. There are about 15 Million Jews on the planet. There are about 120 Muslims for every Jewish person. In Isr

There are about 1.8 Billion Muslims on planet earth. There are about 15 Million Jews on the planet. There are about 120 Muslims for every Jewish person. In Israel there are about 7 million Jews. The anti Israel propaganda and blatant lies on social media is sickening. To someone who knows what's on the ground, reading countless 100% false posts from many (not all!) Muslims and Palestinian supporters is downright scary. Israelis (including myself) try to educate people about who is who and what's right and what is false. This article that singles out Israel for trying to provide its (true) version of reality and facts as nefarious-is misguided to be polite.

hereme888 3y ago
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- giraffe_lady 3y ago
  If someone's supporters lie enough can you genocide them? If not then I don't see how this is relevant.
  - dmix 3y ago
    This is a discussion about propaganda, not justifying the scale of a military response. As an aside throwing the word "genocide" around lightly is also one of the cheapest forms of discourse. Constantly escalating language doesn't make for useful debate. It's just an overused tactic to make your opinions sound more important.
    - giraffe_lady 3y ago
      Claiming that a force currently committing a genocide has "moral clarity" is simultaneously propaganda and a justification of the genocide, yes. I'm not using it for effect, it's an accurate description according to this israeli scholar of genocides. https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
      - hereme888 3y ago
        I'm pretty up to date with what's happening on the ground. There is no "genocide" of Gazans taking place. That's an absolutely ridiculous claim. The IDF has allowed all the humanitarian aid through, and even risked their lives to open up a safe passage for citizens to get to safe zones, because Hamas was blocking them from leaving (because they use civilians as shields and propaganda). I even watched a video today of a large group of Hamas terrorists being allowed to surrender and lay down their weapons, unlike what Hamas did to innocent civilians (killed them).
        giraffe_lady 3y ago
        It's not my claim so you should refute the points Segal makes if this is a thing you're interested in doing. Remember that this is what you were doing during this time. Some day someone will likely ask, and you won't be able to honestly say that you opposed this or even were ignorant of it. We knew what was happening, and told you, and you decided it was fine. Remember this when you lie to your grandchildren about it.
- aprilthird2021 3y ago
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ilitirit 3y ago
> This article that singles out Israel for trying to provide its (true) version of reality Is this a serious comment, or satire? I honestly can't tell. I mean... we're talking about a country whose official social media accounts tries to pass off pics of the Lebanese war as the current situation in Gaza; who posts doctored images to try to disguise executions; who posts edited footage of their military commanders pointing at calendars saying they are a roster of terrorist names. I could go on and on, but that last bit is still too surreal. What (true) version of reality are you talking about here? And besides that, you do realise that one of the things this article is pointing out is how certain groups work together to punish people who post things they don't like - even if it's just an opinion? Nevermind, your post simply has to be satire...
timeagain 3y ago
Why does how many Muslims there are have to do with anything? Israel is not at war with the Muslim community they are at war with a single country which is not even all Muslim. Seems like shaky rhetoric.
- throw_m239339 3y ago
  > Why does how many Muslims there are have to do with anything? Israel is not at war with the Muslim community they are at war with a single country which is not even all Muslim. Seems like shaky rhetoric. But the muslim community is at war with Israel and the jews, given the rabid antisemitism in every corner of MENA and beyond, like in Indonesia and Pakistan. Antisemitism is the normal in all these places. I guess it's also the new normal on US college campuses too.
  - mclightning 3y ago
    What a load of BS.
    - rg111 3y ago
      Muslims tend to very anti-Semitic. Not anti-Israel, anti-IDF, or anti-Zionist, but anti-Jews. I saw many a Muslims quote Quran on how all Jews are evil and such. And this is so rampant.
- hackerlight 3y ago
  Identity is very powerful
Georgelemental 3y ago
> the ground What ground? Kibbutz Be'eri and all the other Israel towns where families are mourning their slaughtered loved ones? Or Gaza refugee camps where families are mourning their own dead children?
LouWwjdSee 3y ago
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hereme888 3y ago

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giraffe_lady 3y ago
If someone's supporters lie enough can you genocide them? If not then I don't see how this is relevant.
- dmix 3y ago
  This is a discussion about propaganda, not justifying the scale of a military response. As an aside throwing the word "genocide" around lightly is also one of the cheapest forms of discourse. Constantly escalating language doesn't make for useful debate. It's just an overused tactic to make your opinions sound more important.
  - giraffe_lady 3y ago
    Claiming that a force currently committing a genocide has "moral clarity" is simultaneously propaganda and a justification of the genocide, yes. I'm not using it for effect, it's an accurate description according to this israeli scholar of genocides. https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
    - hereme888 3y ago
      I'm pretty up to date with what's happening on the ground. There is no "genocide" of Gazans taking place. That's an absolutely ridiculous claim. The IDF has allowed all the humanitarian aid through, and even risked their lives to open up a safe passage for citizens to get to safe zones, because Hamas was blocking them from leaving (because they use civilians as shields and propaganda). I even watched a video today of a large group of Hamas terrorists being allowed to surrender and lay down their weapons, unlike what Hamas did to innocent civilians (killed them).
      - giraffe_lady 3y ago
        It's not my claim so you should refute the points Segal makes if this is a thing you're interested in doing. Remember that this is what you were doing during this time. Some day someone will likely ask, and you won't be able to honestly say that you opposed this or even were ignorant of it. We knew what was happening, and told you, and you decided it was fine. Remember this when you lie to your grandchildren about it.
aprilthird2021 3y ago
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ilitirit 3y ago

> This article that singles out Israel for trying to provide its (true) version of reality Is this a serious comment, or satire? I honestly can't tell. I mean... we're talking about a country whose official social media accounts tries to pass off pics of the Lebanese war as the current situation in Gaza; who posts doctored images to try to disguise executions; who posts edited footage of their military commanders pointing at calendars saying they are a roster of terrorist names. I could go on and on, but that last bit is still too surreal. What (true) version of reality are you talking about here? And besides that, you do realise that one of the things this article is pointing out is how certain groups work together to punish people who post things they don't like - even if it's just an opinion? Nevermind, your post simply has to be satire...

timeagain 3y ago

Why does how many Muslims there are have to do with anything? Israel is not at war with the Muslim community they are at war with a single country which is not even all Muslim. Seems like shaky rhetoric.

throw_m239339 3y ago
> Why does how many Muslims there are have to do with anything? Israel is not at war with the Muslim community they are at war with a single country which is not even all Muslim. Seems like shaky rhetoric. But the muslim community is at war with Israel and the jews, given the rabid antisemitism in every corner of MENA and beyond, like in Indonesia and Pakistan. Antisemitism is the normal in all these places. I guess it's also the new normal on US college campuses too.
- mclightning 3y ago
  What a load of BS.
  - rg111 3y ago
    Muslims tend to very anti-Semitic. Not anti-Israel, anti-IDF, or anti-Zionist, but anti-Jews. I saw many a Muslims quote Quran on how all Jews are evil and such. And this is so rampant.
hackerlight 3y ago
Identity is very powerful

Georgelemental 3y ago

> the ground What ground? Kibbutz Be'eri and all the other Israel towns where families are mourning their slaughtered loved ones? Or Gaza refugee camps where families are mourning their own dead children?

LouWwjdSee 3y ago

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