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> Reached for comment, Beeper CEO Eric Migicovsky did not deny that Apple has successfully blocked Beeper Mini. “If it’s Apple, then I think the biggest questio
by ElijahLynn 3y ago
> Reached for comment, Beeper CEO Eric Migicovsky did not deny that Apple has successfully blocked Beeper Mini. “If it’s Apple, then I think the biggest question is... if Apple truly cares about the privacy and security of their own iPhone users, why would they stop a service that enables their own users to now send encrypted messages to Android users, rather than using unsecure SMS? With their announcement of RCS support, it’s clear that Apple knows they have a gaping hole here. Beeper Mini is here today and works great. Why force iPhone users back to sending unencrypted SMS when they chat with friends on Android?”
Does it come down to The Law of Leaky Abstractions?
>> https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the-law-of-leaky-abstractions/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the-law-of-leaky-a...
Which means that if Apple wants to change something eventually, then they will possibly break downstream abstractions and then people will complain and the downstream abstraction will say "Well Apple changed their API, it is their fault". Letting someone do it from square one would be enabling that future scenario, as it isn't "if" it changes, it is "when".
If it was an open source API that would be different, but Apple's is closed source, that is Apple's philosophy at the core. It is a closed API yah? Not even an open spec right?
- ElijahLynn 3y agoThe good thing though is that Apple finally announced RCS support > https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/
- graphe 3y agoGood? RCS isn't universal. Am I gonna be sending and receiving Google, Verizon, TMobile, or Samsung messages? It's not universally encrypted either. No way am I turning it on.
- unstatusthequo 3y agoIt will end up like home IoT crap. Zigbee, Zwave, Matter, ten other shits… GL with this
- LordDragonfang 3y agoSo instead of being possibly unencrypted RCS when sending outside iMessage, you'd rather guarantee it be unencrypted?
- graphe 3y agoThe only texts I get are unwanted spam or some confirmation codes and no it is not worth it to use RCS with the amount of unsent messages it keeps having problems with, maybe for some "possible encryption". It is trash all the way around.
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- dwaite 3y agoRCS Universal Profile. Vendors are going to have to actually work on improving the standard (and Apple has committed to working within GSMA on an appropriate multi-vendor E2EE mechanism) In the absence of interoperable standards through GSMA, there will likely still be quite a bit of broken behavior, e.g. when it's not a Google RCS Server and all Google clients.
- graphe 3y agoThey don't have to, as they haven't for over a decade. It will suck and I doubt anyone will use it unless they're forced to (for 2fa). This is too little too late, if not iMessage, they'd use Snapchat, Facebook messenger, or IG before switching over to texting. There is zero benefit for apple to make it good and no commercial reason for these vendors to make it good for multi vendors.
- jejeyyy77 3y agolol that is such a reach from Eric
- ma2rten 3y agoApples cares about the privacy and security of iPhones as a differentiator.
- threeseed 3y agoApple employees also care deeply about the privacy and security of iPhones.
- dev_tty01 3y agoI agree. There are already third party E2E messaging apps that work across platforms. Anyone who decided to build a business on unauthorized use of another company's servers was just setting themselves up for disappointment. I have a hard time understanding how anyone thought Apple would not cut this off.
- m3kw9 3y agoIs like saying if they care about privacy why do Apple allow users to buy android? Why not give your iPhone away for free so they don’t get to use it.