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Unless you are diabetic, aspartame is much worse for you than sugar. It causes metabolic issues, such as reduced metabolism (leading to more weight gain than a

by hedora 3y ago

Unless you are diabetic, aspartame is much worse for you than sugar. It causes metabolic issues, such as reduced metabolism (leading to more weight gain than a subjectively equivalent amount of sugar), migraines in some people, interacts with drugs, is bad for your digestive tract, and probably has other side effects. Even if you are diabetic, you can already eat apples. They have a low glycemic index.

liamwire 3y ago
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Can you back any of this up, or provide a reason I should believe what you’re saying? Because it directly contradicts decades of research on what is perhaps the most scrutinised and studied dietary supplement in the world. Aspartame is safe, and very well tolerated. You’re spreading misinformation.
- willmadden 3y ago
  You are the one spreading misinformation. Aspartame is horrible for you. Here, have a read. I have more if you would like them. https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220324143800.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220324143800.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1964906/pdf/ehp0115-001293.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1964906/pdf/ehp0... http://www.mpwhi.com/soffritti_2010_20896_fta.pdf http://www.mpwhi.com/soffritti_2010_20896_fta.pdf https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-021-00725-y https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-... https://annalsofglobalhealth.org/articles/10.5334/aogh.4163 https://annalsofglobalhealth.org/articles/10.5334/aogh.4163 http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/96/6/1419.long http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/96/6/1419.long https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24436139 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24436139 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2213120119 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2213120119 https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2022/12/08/fsu-research-links-common-sweetener-with-anxiety/ https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2022/12/08/fsu-res... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41213-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41213-2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoBuTr0Or0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoBuTr0Or0 http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/28/E929 http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/28/E929 https://www.statnews.com/2017/07/17/artificial-sweeteners-weight-loss/ https://www.statnews.com/2017/07/17/artificial-sweeteners-we... https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2017/09/14/why-one-cardiologist-has-drunk-his-last-diet-soda/ https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2017/09/14/why-one-cardiologis... https://www.philly.com/philly/health/this-cardiologist-wants-his-family-to-cut-back-on-diet-soda-should-yours-too-20170912.html https://www.philly.com/philly/health/this-cardiologist-wants... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27129676 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27129676 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROK... https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2017/04/20/daily-consumption-of-sodas-fruit-juices-and-artificially-sweetened-sodas-affect-brain/ https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2017/04/20/daily-consumption-of... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/21/study-links-diet-soda-to-higher-risk-of-stroke-dementia/?utm_term=.2bfedb009058 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/2... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787915 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787915 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787917 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787917 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1579221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1579221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/envhper00434-0053.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/env... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28198207 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28198207 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28049023 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28049023 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17684524 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17684524 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661805001404 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661805... https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article/doi/10.2337/dc23-0206/153434/Artificial-Sweeteners-and-Risk-of-Type-2-Diabetes https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article/doi/10.2337/dc23-0... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27997218 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27997218 http://www.massgeneral.org/News/pressrelease.aspx?id=2016 http://www.massgeneral.org/News/pressrelease.aspx?id=2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/
  - sethrin 3y ago
    For anyone else reading this, feel free to ignore this person's post. If there's a good case to be made that aspartame is harmful, this isn't it. Few of these studies are germane to typical human exposure, and typical exposure levels aren't strongly correlated with large increases in risk. For the author, try reading some of these papers. Also don't bother linking to press releases or newspaper articles, you're just wasting other people's time. You probably want to skip the animal studies too. Go for no more than three links, preferably meta-studies -- at least if your intention is to be taken for something other than a crank.
BurningFrog 3y ago
> * reduced metabolism (leading to more weight gain than a subjectively equivalent amount of sugar),* Doesn't that mean aspartame somehow contains more energy than sugar? I mean, assuming the increased weight is fat, that is stored extra energy.
- mpol 3y ago
  The idea works longterm. You take aspartame, which has a sweet taste but no energy. Your body starts all kinds of digestive functions and gets confused. After a lot of aspartame it doesn't know how to respond to sweet food anymore.
- oaktrout 3y ago
  There is some evidence that artificial sweeteners increase insulin resistance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/ I have also heard that because artificial sweeteners increase insulin levels without increasing blood glucose to the same extent that sugars would, this leads to a blood sugar drop which induces increased eating.
Lord-Jobo 3y ago
Decades of research have found rare, but still very mildly negative health results from aspartame, and an overwhelming flood of direct evidence for strong negative health effects from sugar. Back up what you are saying with some studies. Because what you are claiming is going against a LOT of modern medical knowledge.
- willmadden 3y ago
  Are you kidding? Aspartame is horrible for you. Dozens of studies link it to cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s, seizures, stroke and dementia, as well as negative effects such as intestinal dysbiosis, mood disorders, headaches and migraines. It's also linked to weight gain and obesity.
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by hedora 3y ago

liamwire 3y ago

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Can you back any of this up, or provide a reason I should believe what you’re saying? Because it directly contradicts decades of research on what is perhaps the most scrutinised and studied dietary supplement in the world. Aspartame is safe, and very well tolerated. You’re spreading misinformation.

willmadden 3y ago
You are the one spreading misinformation. Aspartame is horrible for you. Here, have a read. I have more if you would like them. https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003950 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220324143800.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220324143800.h... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392232/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1964906/pdf/ehp0115-001293.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1964906/pdf/ehp0... http://www.mpwhi.com/soffritti_2010_20896_fta.pdf http://www.mpwhi.com/soffritti_2010_20896_fta.pdf https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-021-00725-y https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-... https://annalsofglobalhealth.org/articles/10.5334/aogh.4163 https://annalsofglobalhealth.org/articles/10.5334/aogh.4163 http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/96/6/1419.long http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/96/6/1419.long https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24436139 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24436139 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2213120119 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2213120119 https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2022/12/08/fsu-research-links-common-sweetener-with-anxiety/ https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2022/12/08/fsu-res... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41213-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-41213-2 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoBuTr0Or0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCoBuTr0Or0 http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/28/E929 http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/28/E929 https://www.statnews.com/2017/07/17/artificial-sweeteners-weight-loss/ https://www.statnews.com/2017/07/17/artificial-sweeteners-we... https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2017/09/14/why-one-cardiologist-has-drunk-his-last-diet-soda/ https://blogs.wsj.com/experts/2017/09/14/why-one-cardiologis... https://www.philly.com/philly/health/this-cardiologist-wants-his-family-to-cut-back-on-diet-soda-should-yours-too-20170912.html https://www.philly.com/philly/health/this-cardiologist-wants... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27129676 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27129676 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROKEAHA.116.016027 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/early/2017/04/20/STROK... https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2017/04/20/daily-consumption-of-sodas-fruit-juices-and-artificially-sweetened-sodas-affect-brain/ https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2017/04/20/daily-consumption-of... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/21/study-links-diet-soda-to-higher-risk-of-stroke-dementia/?utm_term=.2bfedb009058 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/04/2... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787915 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787915 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787917 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24787917 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1579221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1579221 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/envhper00434-0053.pdf https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1474447/pdf/env... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28198207 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28198207 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28049023 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28049023 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17684524 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17684524 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661805001404 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661805... https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article/doi/10.2337/dc23-0206/153434/Artificial-Sweeteners-and-Risk-of-Type-2-Diabetes https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article/doi/10.2337/dc23-0... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27997218 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27997218 http://www.massgeneral.org/News/pressrelease.aspx?id=2016 http://www.massgeneral.org/News/pressrelease.aspx?id=2016 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3772345/
- sethrin 3y ago
  For anyone else reading this, feel free to ignore this person's post. If there's a good case to be made that aspartame is harmful, this isn't it. Few of these studies are germane to typical human exposure, and typical exposure levels aren't strongly correlated with large increases in risk. For the author, try reading some of these papers. Also don't bother linking to press releases or newspaper articles, you're just wasting other people's time. You probably want to skip the animal studies too. Go for no more than three links, preferably meta-studies -- at least if your intention is to be taken for something other than a crank.

BurningFrog 3y ago

> * reduced metabolism (leading to more weight gain than a subjectively equivalent amount of sugar),* Doesn't that mean aspartame somehow contains more energy than sugar? I mean, assuming the increased weight is fat, that is stored extra energy.

mpol 3y ago
The idea works longterm. You take aspartame, which has a sweet taste but no energy. Your body starts all kinds of digestive functions and gets confused. After a lot of aspartame it doesn't know how to respond to sweet food anymore.
oaktrout 3y ago
There is some evidence that artificial sweeteners increase insulin resistance: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/ I have also heard that because artificial sweeteners increase insulin levels without increasing blood glucose to the same extent that sugars would, this leads to a blood sugar drop which induces increased eating.

Lord-Jobo 3y ago

Decades of research have found rare, but still very mildly negative health results from aspartame, and an overwhelming flood of direct evidence for strong negative health effects from sugar. Back up what you are saying with some studies. Because what you are claiming is going against a LOT of modern medical knowledge.

willmadden 3y ago
Are you kidding? Aspartame is horrible for you. Dozens of studies link it to cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s, seizures, stroke and dementia, as well as negative effects such as intestinal dysbiosis, mood disorders, headaches and migraines. It's also linked to weight gain and obesity.

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