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This is completely hypothetical and it's not at all clear whether it's biologically practical. Even if vaguely possible it will kill much of your extended fami

This is completely hypothetical and it's not at all clear whether it's biologically practical. Even if vaguely possible it will kill much of your extended family too.

sonicanatidae 3y ago
Racism and bigotry can kill and they are certainly factors with this type of information. I agree with you on biological being the attack vector is very unlikely, at least, at this point.
- boringuser2 3y ago
  That's a bit of a reach. Also, if someone doesn't like X people enough to randomly murder people, I don't think they're too worried about splicing around DNA. Just silly.
  - sonicanatidae 3y ago
    ahh.. then this must be hilarious. https://portal.ct.gov/AG/Press-Releases/2023-Press-Releases/Attorney-General-Tong-Issues-Inquiry-Letter-to-23andMe-Following-Data-Breach https://portal.ct.gov/AG/Press-Releases/2023-Press-Releases/... Excerpt: The threat actor has posted sample data indicating the attack was targeted at account holders with Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese heritage.
    - boringuser2 3y ago
      The problem with this comment is that it presupposes that this information in that regard has any value to anyone, even malicious racists. I'm pretty sure they don't care about your genetic estimation if you're Jewish.
      - sonicanatidae 3y ago
        Name + genetic origins = racism targets. Keep in mind, you can't just look at most people and know their religion or racial makeup.
- arp242 3y ago
  But you hardly need a DNA database for that? Usually the type of identities that are discriminated against are pretty clear from the outset. Even the Nazis and their Rassenkunde bollocks was more post-hoc window-dressing rationale than anything else – they really didn't need that to tell who the Jews, Slavs, Roma, etc. were. This is usually the pattern: "I want to discriminate against $group for $emotional reasons, and I can't really articulate why, so let me find $facts to support my $case". And look, if you want to keep it private then you should of course keep it private, and if 23andme promises to keep it private then you have every right to keep them to their promise. Privacy is fundamentally about choice, and those choices will be different for everyone and I'm not here to judge anyone's choices. But personally, I think the abuse for DNA data is actually quite small, almost non-existent.

This is completely hypothetical and it's not at all clear whether it's biologically practical. Even if vaguely possible it will kill much of your extended family too.

sonicanatidae 3y ago

Racism and bigotry can kill and they are certainly factors with this type of information. I agree with you on biological being the attack vector is very unlikely, at least, at this point.

boringuser2 3y ago
That's a bit of a reach. Also, if someone doesn't like X people enough to randomly murder people, I don't think they're too worried about splicing around DNA. Just silly.
- sonicanatidae 3y ago
  ahh.. then this must be hilarious. https://portal.ct.gov/AG/Press-Releases/2023-Press-Releases/Attorney-General-Tong-Issues-Inquiry-Letter-to-23andMe-Following-Data-Breach https://portal.ct.gov/AG/Press-Releases/2023-Press-Releases/... Excerpt: The threat actor has posted sample data indicating the attack was targeted at account holders with Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese heritage.
  - boringuser2 3y ago
    The problem with this comment is that it presupposes that this information in that regard has any value to anyone, even malicious racists. I'm pretty sure they don't care about your genetic estimation if you're Jewish.
    - sonicanatidae 3y ago
      Name + genetic origins = racism targets. Keep in mind, you can't just look at most people and know their religion or racial makeup.
arp242 3y ago
But you hardly need a DNA database for that? Usually the type of identities that are discriminated against are pretty clear from the outset. Even the Nazis and their Rassenkunde bollocks was more post-hoc window-dressing rationale than anything else – they really didn't need that to tell who the Jews, Slavs, Roma, etc. were. This is usually the pattern: "I want to discriminate against $group for $emotional reasons, and I can't really articulate why, so let me find $facts to support my $case". And look, if you want to keep it private then you should of course keep it private, and if 23andme promises to keep it private then you have every right to keep them to their promise. Privacy is fundamentally about choice, and those choices will be different for everyone and I'm not here to judge anyone's choices. But personally, I think the abuse for DNA data is actually quite small, almost non-existent.